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Old 04-05-2012, 08:01 PM
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Great forum, some very useful info here.
I got a scooter the other day, non running condition.
It's a 2004 Venice qs-50qt-5.

I put fresh gas in it, new spark plug (ngkbp7hs was as closest as I found from my quick research), cleaned the bowl on carburetor, battery is dead, so I kick started it and she fired right up.
Now, my question is this, I went to take a snoop around looking for an air filter, but nowhere to be found. Is is supposed to be attached to the carb?
And where can I source one from?
I tried to take it for a spin, but it bogs down, I'm thinking too much air in and same jet size.
Any help is appreciated.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:55 PM
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Hey there! Sounds like you are well on your way to understanding what to do already about your lean (?) bog. (Does it run any better when warm?)

There should be some kind of air filter before the carb's intake - either pleated paper or oiled foam in an air box?

A filter isn't hard to fashion - like oiled foam.

Too cheap to buy a Malossi replacement, I got some 1/2" thick green foam from Joanne Fabrics, used the original as a template to cut it to the correct dimensions and shape, sprayed it with some K&N filter oil I had laying around (any thick oil should do), squeezed out the excess oil and installed. Works great.

Engine needs filtering, so mock something up if yours is missing.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:56 PM
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The whole air box is missing....
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:26 AM
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Yup, you need the air box and filter. Way too much air, and re-jetting would be too much time and a pain(not to mention the dozen jets you'd have to try out). Can you ask the place you got it from if they have the airbox lieing around somewhere still?
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:35 AM
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i got the scooter locally from a private party.
he said that he tried to get it running but just gave up.
i contacted him again to see if he has it laying around, so well see what he says.

but where can i get one from if i don't hear from him or he doesn't have it?
i don't even know what it looks like to be honest, i saw it in the pic kind of in the pdf manual, but thats about it.
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:58 AM
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i found one source that sells it, but id like to verify with you guys that this is what it should indeed look like, like i said it wasn't there so I'm not sure even what it looks like.
http://www.tankmotorsports.com/air-b...-scooters.html

not that $ either.
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:46 PM
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Looks like it could be made to work - (even if not an exact fit like it warns at page bottom). The hose to carb will need to be hose clamped to be air tight and the box secured so as not to rattle off from vibrations. Anything loose WILL eventually fall off; don't ask me how I know.

Do a search for your TNG's part manual and compare their drawings to the part you get. Even a close look at another Venice scooter's airbox might get you closer to knowing fitment.

Martinracingdealer is a wholesale only site that has TNG parts manuals to download (I hope your browser is faster than mine).
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:07 PM
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sorry to be giving you bad news but
its out of stock at mrp and
your air box link doesn't look real familiar .
its the rubber connector from the box to the
carb thats important .its usually molded to snake
around stuff so cutting one is not the best solution right now.
lets look some more.

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Old 04-06-2012, 10:10 PM
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damn, well i emailed a few people that might be selling them, and this is another one that got back to me.
http://www.scrappydogscooters.com/50...OKE_PARTS.html
there are 2 types, not sure which one it is that i need.
any help?
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I have a 2006 venice mine takes the front mount airbox type 1 sure they are the same unless you have the rear facing carb

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