Zuma Wheelie

[mikhail masevich]

My friend has an 2001 Zuma (Made in France) I lean back and open it the front wheel comes right up I can ride a mile long whellie on his because of how light is is. On my 03 zuma I sit back hit the front shock and barely pull a whellie it is too heavy and not enough torque. Do I need lighter roller weights? Or should I just drill a hole in the airbox? :confused:

[scooterconvert]

Just like the fat lady I saw in the supermarket one of those handicap scooters... Grandson in her lap, she was leaning back to grab some twinkies and little man hit the gas....


FUNNY! I would have liked to see that! :eek:

[marylandmark]

THANKS for bringing that back up...

I had forgotten all about it and just almost spit my OJ all over my pc remembering that...

HAHAH

[scooterconvert]

I'm glad I could be of assistance! :D

[scootinforlife247]

you can pull a wheelie with a stock scooter

[Davey-boi]

Yup, the red vino in that pic is bone stock and look at how high that wheel is in the air!

http://www.provoscooter.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album02&id=P4110384_sized

[Zuma88]

heck a yamaha razz the crapest scooter can do a wheelie

[XPS1210]

okay... To start those are pics of Erich and some friends back in the day...

As well if you look close... the scooter isn't moving... it's resting on the rear fender...!

So... bad example... however on a 50cc scooter... it's not really the power that makes a wheelie happen but the rider...

With my set up I am able to ride a wheelie but am not comfortable doing so.... so the wheelie isn't ridden way back for a long distance... however there are those who can ride a stock 50cc scooter a long ways... it's about ballance and skill...


There are some exceptions... IE: wheelie from a start VIA engine power only... Most of the Wheelies scooterists ride are done so by pulling the scooter to get it up... Just like riding a wheelie on a bicycle...

[Davey-boi]

Hahahaa! Muahahah, muahaha ha ha! Jered, you think that a lil flimsy plastic rear fender can hold not only a vino, but 170+lb. rider?!?! Thats pretty funny man. I think he's dragging the fender with him. Plus I've seen the video, and the stunt rider does pop it that high while moving.

[marylandmark]

Still a pretty cool pic..

[Ghostrider]

So what about a modded Zuma with 70cc with supporting mods?

[Zuma88]

anything can wheelie

[scootinforlife247]

anything can you just gata have the skills :)

[Lennox]

I hope to be able to pull "power" wheelies once i have my extra ponies under the seat!!

[XPS1210]

That's what I'm hoping as well... With the nwe cylinder and the Over Range I ordered!

That'd be awesome!

[Zombie-Stomp]

I could always pull one, stock aetup took more practice to make them last longer. With the 70 kit, all I have to do is be sitting on the rear part of the seat, and it does a wheelie if I just pull the throttle wide open. I can ride it out more easily then stock as well because it has the prolonged torque, but sometimes I want to be sitting on the back of the seat in traffic and not wheelie, so I have to open the throttle carefully and slowly, which makes me not have the jump off the line I like. I want to know how it wheelies with upgear kits. the thought of less wheelie action with a upgear kit makes me think twice about the motor mount extension project...

[ScooterJim]

In learning to do wheelies I have learned a trick:

Find a hill! Yup, with a steep hill and you rolling near stopped, when you grab the throttle and pull up, the scooter is still delivering more torque for the hill and you will wheelie easier.

I found this when coming home, up my own steep driveway.

Go find a hill and try it!

[911elite]

that also makes it easier to flip but i guess if you use your feet then your ok.

[ScooterJim]

911elite, my feet stay on the deck!

[911elite]

good deal. how far can you ride one with your feet up?
on a new zuma i cant ride one but about 50ft, my old pre2002 i could ride forever
that was with a full MHR kit and jollymoto exhaust.

[PreBug308]

I can ride my prebug about 100-200 feet, it all depends on if i got it up right at the right speed. And i only have a pipe/variator and clutch springs.

[Trojanmn60563]

I can pop my stock '04 Zuma up and ride it for maybe 10ft. If comes up about a foot and falls back down pretty quick. I go slow goose it quick then let off as I press down on the front of the bike and then go WOT and yank up hard to get the tire up. I have yet to ride it very far. I don't think I am getting it up high enough to find the balance point. I think its more due to lack of power and my weight (270lbs) that is making it impossible to get it up without more power.

[toezter]

I can pop my stock '04 Zuma up and ride it for maybe 10ft. If comes up about a foot and falls back down pretty quick. I go slow goose it quick then let off as I press down on the front of the bike and then go WOT and yank up hard to get the tire up. I have yet to ride it very far. I don't think I am getting it up high enough to find the balance point. I think its more due to lack of power and my weight (270lbs) that is making it impossible to get it up without more power.


try leaning back a little more, or have your feet stance back near the passanger "pegs". plus, when you're up, try not to lean too far forward. just maintain that balance as you were talking about before. i've seen big (idk about 270lbs) do manuals on bmx.

i used to ride street bmx back in the day. now i'm all motorized 2 wheels :)

[Trojanmn60563]

try leaning back a little more, or have your feet stance back near the passanger "pegs". plus, when you're up, try not to lean too far forward. just maintain that balance as you were talking about before. i've seen big (idk about 270lbs) do manuals on bmx.

i used to ride street bmx back in the day. now i'm all motorized 2 wheels :)

I used to race BMX back in the day and could ride a wheelie on my Elf for as long as I had road...but the scooter is more of a trick....and my YZ comes up too fast for me to have the nerve to keep it up.

[Tuning Forks]

For those who are serious about wanting to do long wheelies, learn how to ride a unicycle. You will learn how to find and keep the balance point. ::handleba

[RydinHi]

Im a master when it comes to wheelies on street bikes and motocross and a number of different scooters... but I cannot beleive anyone can do a wheelie on a stock zuma.... I would bet money on it and have to see it in real life.... who lives near wisconsin that can do one?

[rydah]

are you talking about on a newer zuma or the older body style. i seen vinnie on OCC do wheelies on a stock bug eye zuma, on the tv show. he didnt have a problem doing them either.

[RydinHi]

The newer model.... I only weigh 135lbs so I imagine it has alot to do with weight....

[kevgoof]

there are many ways you can do a wheelie, when you do yours do you just sit at the back of the seat and let it wide open cause usually stock scooters cant take that what i do i have a (stock) 90 zuma i go about 2-3 km/h then pull up and crank the throttle i can get about 2 feet off the ground but i dont go very far maybe 6ft. because im chicken****.
and im not very light either i weight about 185 lbs.

[ScooterJim]

are you talking about on a newer zuma or the older body style. i seen vinnie on OCC do wheelies on a stock bug eye zuma, on the tv show. he didnt have a problem doing them either.


Rydah,
that scooter aint stock.... the occ message board talks about what they did, and what parts they bought from Provo.

[rydah]

Rydah,
that scooter aint stock.... the occ message board talks about what they did, and what parts they bought from Provo.
that bike looked stock to me, it was slug.

[XPS1210]

Yeah, BTW: OCC did buy stage 2 kits from provo... I think that is all they put on them...

[XPS1210]

but for the show.. it was stock...

[rydah]

i saw the one where vinnie put a street kit on that vino, but when vinnie was doin wheelies on that zuma it looked stock.

[Mitch]

I'm with Rydinhi,
I had many dirt bikes in my time from KX 80's, to RM 250's and everything in between. I was able to wheelie first through 4th gear on every one of them. I can barely get the front wheel of my 04 zuma off the ground. It seems to me it would take a whole lot more hp's to get the front wheel up on a zuma.

just my $.02

[RydinHi]

I agree.... I have a DRZ400 enduro and I can ride wheelies for about 1 mile, sometimes more. I cant even get the front wheel to come up more than 10 inches on my 05 Zuma.

[rydah]

thats cuzz those new zumas are tanks.

[Iceman]

thats cuzz those new zumas are tanks.


Tanks yes but built like one also. TUFF! I really think Yamaha dropped the ball when they didn't stick with a Zuma model for 06. ::Ov

[Trojanmn60563]

Yeah my Zuma is a tank but it feels like one driving down the road...a very positive road feel in my opinion. It doesn't get blown around by wind or passing cars...that is comforting. I would probably feel totally safe doing 60+ on my Zuma.

As far as wheelies go I agree in order to get it up high enough to ride a wheelie of any distance more power is needed.

[PreBug308]

I just tried on my buddies bug eye and woah at this point i think it's impossible without further mods (he has a pipe and rollers/clutch springs) That's why I love my prebug, rode wheelies stock, now ride wheelies even longer after stage 1.

[Angelfire]

Wheelies can be done on a Stock 05 zuma acually pretty easy all you have to really do is Sit on the back seat put your feet on the passenger pegs and put on the bars a bit and it will come right up.

However if you have no clue what you are doing you will most likly flip over but you can do one that or stand up on the passenger pegs and pull and lean back and it will come right up also.

Vinne on OCC was able to do them easy cause he is taller and he has some weight behind him but if your a little light guy well good luck on getting a stock one to wheelie. :)

[PreBug308]

I sat all the way on the back, even stood up, its way too hard for me to do. I'd never buy a bug eye, but thats just my personal opinion. They ride wayyy smoother then prebugs do though.

[rydah]

my 2000 zuma with 12" wheels rides very smooth and i can take turns very deep.

[PreBug308]

Well mine rides smooth also, and turns are crazy on zuma's i can take them so sharp. How did you get 12 inch wheels on your prebug?

[florida derbi rocket]

I think he got them from an Aerox...Hope he doesn't mind the Pic.....Notice the bopper tires/Bars and Stem....Looks sharp!! :cool:

[PreBug308]

Nice.

[rydah]

the aerox uses 13's, my rims come from the euro zuma called bw12". i ordered them from a yamaha dealer in england.
hey thats the pic of my bike from one of the moped cruises.

[florida derbi rocket]

Yea Rydah...I wanted an Aerox so bad...I put it out of my mind...I hope you don't mind me showin' off a better pic of your sweet Pre-Bug ...You deserve to win the Photo contest..Nice work man...:ll :D John

[rodgcc]

stockers are extremely difficult to wheelie.

i too have an extensive background of wheelies, 500ft + coasters on a gsxr600. and i will vouch that stock zuma's are hard to wheelie. I have a new 05 w/ 600 miles and i've ridden a couple over 100 ft standing on pass. pegs and a few even longer standing on the seat. either way it was a difficult task compared to other crazy stunts i've done. i can MOB the piss out of a stock vino, circles, combos, you name it. but that heavier chassis kills what little power you have to work with.

i'm would like to mod mine for wheelies and torque, not top speed. so i'm assuming leave the over gear off? guru's please suggest set up

[speedy_scooter]

i would think if you put on a 70, RS pipe, 19mm carb, overramge, kevlar belt, and malossi vari. you also could get the polini 2g clutch with bell and some stiff orwque and clutch springs.

[Trojanmn60563]

I can only wheelie mine about 20ft. I have not found a great balance point yet...more power would make so much easier.

[tbone]

The first day I put my 70cc on I fired her up pulled a wheelie out of the garage about 20'. When the front end was coming down I started pulling back to make it to 40'. The problem was I didn't clamp off the push side of the throttle cable yet, so when I pulled and leaned back I rolled the throttle forward WFO. I got the 40' with the back of my pipe as a wheelie bar and me running trying to get the throttle shut down. Everything came to a stop when I hit my water well house. For me the key to doing good wheelies is having the cable clamp on real tight.

[scarygary]

hello... first post here.. (yeah!)

I have a prebug and a 05 BWs (Zuma)... I could wheelie the prebug, it is much lighter and the accelertaion is way faster. My 05 is heavy, slow and very stable. It has a top speed that is a good 10 km/h faster than my prebug. Both are bone stock.

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[florida derbi rocket]

Can you take the Bug Lights off temporarily?..just to see how the scoot wheelies without?...Sorry..My damn Brain.. :p

[speedy_scooter]

hahaha, funny one john!!:jesta: :jesta

[Zuma-Zuma]

We would wheelie our FA's and QT's all day long. No power, but balance, and a hand on the rear brake lever would do nicely. My R1 will wheelie forever, but it tends to pick up speed!! Scooters wheelie nicely, but I'm hoping a few more parts, and I can do a throttle wheelie, instead of a "clean and jerk type". I haven't tried a "coastie" or "stoppie" yet, but I'm trying!! Wife has a box full of guaze and hydro/peroxide waiting!!

[ScooterJim]

For those who are serious about wanting to do long wheelies, learn how to ride a unicycle. You will learn how to find and keep the balance point. ::handleba


Although theres something to that statement, let me state (as a lifelong unicyclist) that they are NOTHING in common bro!

Riding a unicycle teaches you turning, leaning and balance. NONE of which will help you ride a weelie on a Motorcycle or bicycle. Why? Because with a 2 wheeled vehicle, you get some gyroscopic effect from the front tire that helps you steer, and you hold the balance point with throttle control, not your legs on pedals. (has anyone ever seen Doug Dimokous? The self proclaimed wheelie king? He has an electric motor spinning his front tire at a VERY fast RPM. While in San Diego in 1980 I challenged him to a frendly wheelie contest where he could not use his motor.... guess who won? NOT Doug!

I spent many an hour on one wheel, and still do. I have been wheeling everything I owned (from unicycles, to bicycles, to dirt bikes, to super bikes) my whole life and find one wheel completely addicting. If you want to find the balance point, do it with the scooter off. Grab the rear brake and park that sucker up on its rear tire. Find the angle where it is easy to balance, and understand under power it will be about 5% lower than that.

Practice makes perfect, and be ready to scratch up and dink up whatever your learning ride is. 'Looping' it (flipping it over) is a part of learning.

[florida derbi rocket]

The thing is ,Erich (provoscooter owner) never carried Metrakit parts. This pic taken by Lennox of the old Zumas shows the MK sticker on Mikey's Vino 50cc.By the time they got the newer 125 scooters Erich was back in school and away from the business.

[65mphZuma]

I put a stage 2 kit on a Vino. The first time I got on it I was not expecting the take off it had. I not sitting on it properly, I was side saddle and was going to turn and sit properly under acceleration. I was taken by surprise, the front wheel came up in the air so that the front wheel was about 4' or more in the air. It went about 100 foot like that.
It was a completely unintentional wheely, purely on power. I was very impressed with the power produced by the Stage 2 kit with the Airsal 70cc

[csfieldmusic]

Funny,

You guys are trying to ride wheelies.

I am doing everything I can to get my bike to stop throwing wheelies!

If you want to ride a wheelie...

Get a good quality 70c BBK
Stiff Clutch Springs
Good Rollers
19mm Carb ( around 95 main jet)
A high rpm race pipe with lots of low end torque ( Tecnigas RS or Yasuni )
A full face helmet and plenty of Protective gear (Not Joking)

Give it some gas and hold on! You will be going for a wheelie ride.