Upgrade to a Vino 125: worth it?

[foosball_monkey]

Okay, I'm starting to wonder if I should upgrade to a Vino 125 from my Vino Classic. Anyone ever done that, if so, pros and cons? The Vino 125 would allow me to bring a passenger because it's got a stronger engine, that's gone pro I can think of. It also can go 60+ mph without modifications, another pro. The only con I can think of is that it is supposedly harder to modify. Any thoughts?

[King Vino]

1: You'll need a motorcycle license and plates.
2: THey tend to top out at 55-60 mph range according to the user groups.
3: There are virtually no hop up parts for the 125, there are some but nowhere near as many.

I let the next guy chime in at this point.

[Davey-boi]

A little while after I got my vino I was thinkin about doin that too. To this day I still think I shoulda gone with the 125.

PROS:
The vino 125 can go 55-60mph stock, still be as reliable as ever, still be under warrenty, and you'll still get great gas mileage. Another thing, no matter how well you mod a regular vino, it'll be damn hard to get front disc brakes up there. As for mods, you don't really need them. Most vino owners have to spend hundreds just to get their scoots up to 50mph. When they do that reliability, gas mileage, quietness (performance pipes get LOUD), drop and they still don't have disc brakes! But there are mods for the 125, they are just in Japan :p . People, 4 strokes can be modded, it's a total myth that it is impossible, you just have to find the parts!!! I thought my aprilia mojito was gonna stay a 150cc all it's life, but I found a place that sells 190cc kits, and thats a 4stroke scoot. Vespa owners mod the shizzle outta their ET4s. Then there's license requirements, most states you need a license for a 50cc scooter anyway, why not get something bigger? Finally, the vino 125 is better on the environment.

CONS:
There are only a few, and can be worked around. The styling is cool, but not as classy as the vino classic, thats subjective though. The other is that they are hard to find! There was like no way I could buy a vino 125 brand new. Thats why I stuck with the vino :D . Other than those two things, this is a damn good scoot.

Those are my opinions at least. Some things can be argumented. Like a lot of dudes will say their stage 3 scoot is just as realiable as when it left the factory, yet we hear mod problems all the time. Not to mention the amount of tuning time :eek: ! But your main problem would probably be finding one to actually trade for, or at least that was the case a few months ago. I must admit though.......... it' fun being a grease monkey on the week ends :) .

[isoscelesjones]

Unfortunately, I have little basis for comparison between the vino/vino classic and the vino 125 - I bought my 125 new, and it's my first scoot. I got lucky and only had to wait about a month and a half to get it too - but usually, you have to wait a while for the new ones.

I do have some experience riding my dad's zuma, and as far as the acceleration goes: from 0 to 20 is better on the zuma than on the vino 125 - but after that the 125 wins flat out. However, my dad's zuma is derestricted, so he does put up a pretty good fight. The one thing I know is different between all the vinos is the brakes. Disc brakes on the 125 are a huge plus.

But I don't know if the zuma and vino/vino classics are that similar - I imagine they are pretty close though. Especially after derestriction.

Anyway, if you can find a 125 new or used and in good shape, test ride it and see if you like it - I'm sure you will love it! Otherwise, soup the hell outta your vino classic, and then ride it all day, every day.

Maybe someday soon, there will be more 125's on the showroom floors. Then maybe there'll be more aftermarket parts available for 'em.

I love my 125 and can't imagine riding anything else at this point (except maybe a Stella).

[King Vino]

Thanks guys, my heart just wasn't in to making a big post.

[isthatavespa]

Hey kids,
I have both sized Vinos, all I have done so far is remove the exhaust restrictor on the 50, otherwise they are both stock.
At a standstill; the 50 accelerates instantly but kinda tops out around 30 mph or so, runs silky smooth.
the 125 accelerates nicely, but not as quick from a stop as the 50, but by 15 mpg the 125 passes up the 50 like its putting on the brakes. the 125 hits almost 50 mph with my big ass (225lbs). It does run a little lumpy compaired to the 50, but thats a 4 stroke for ya.
both scoots are beautiful thats, why I kept the 50, I was supposed to trade it in when my 125 finally showed up, but by then I had already had a relationship with the 50. (I could never do fostering). :o

Tyler

Is that a Vespa?
No lady, it says Yamaha Vino

[King Vino]

Hey kids,
I have both sized Vinos, all I have done so far is remove the exhaust restrictor on the 50, otherwise they are both stock.
At a standstill; the 50 accelerates instantly but kinda tops out around 30 mph or so, runs silky smooth.

Hun? I have a derestricted Vino, the acceleration sucks pretty bad, and I top out near forty, as with most every other Vino 50-RAR owner on this board. As well as every Vino 50, I have ever derestricted and upjetted for for the YMC dealer I've worked at. The only time the 50cc motor will launch is when it is cold and the auto choke is open up with the stock 64 jet.

[SuperDaveJr.]

If it were me, I'd stick with my little fiddy see see pal. But the laws do make a big difference. Here in NC, you dont need to have a liscence or any sort of insurance or registration or anything if it's 50 cc's. You basically buy it, wear a helmet and your done. But with a 125cc you would need to take all of the neccesary steps to ride it legally that you would in order to ride a full blown motorcycle. So the way I see it, if your gonna get a 125cc Vino (in NC), why not get a streetbike instead?

[Zuma88]

some dont like the idea of shifting.


me my self i love riding sport bikes im going to become a legal ride of them next week

[Davey-boi]

Cuz street bikes are lame and for guys who are over compinsating...

[King Vino]

You tell em' Davey.

[marylandmark]

gotta love the Zuma's stock disc brakes...

;) :p

[King Vino]

Bah, back in my day we didn't have no fancy brakes, we just used our feet to stop.