600 mile service = $$$$

[ChibiMoto]

Just took my bike in for 600 mile service, it cost me $120!?!?! _o
Is this normal? and if so is this the aveage cost for service? Man that is steep. Maybe I should learn to do this myself.....

[sooznd]

yup --my dealer quoted me something like that plus parts.. Gonna find a mom & pop motorcycle shop to do it or do it myself...

[waterinthefuel]

Susan we already discussed this. It's something I feel you can do yourself. I really do. If you are confident modifing your bike to the extent you have, this valve adjustment's a joke!!

I don't have the confidence to delve into the front and rear blinkers, and you did! You're better than me!!

Don't sweat this TDC on the compression stroke thing. You will only get one TDC with both valves closed. If your straw or pencil comes all the way up and one valve (exhaust) is open, just keep going around and she'll close, the other (intake) will briefly open, and then the piston will come up and both will be closed. Very simple.

[brian1wills]

I just did my 600 mile service yesterday. It was extremely simple. If all you were going to do was change the engine oil it would take no time at all. There is no way I would pay anyone more than $25 for the labor to do this simple task. I went to my dealer and told them I was going to do an oil change on my vino and they set my up with the oil I would need and also recommended that I change the final drive oil. I have no problem paying my dealers price for the oil, they're are providing a service and always help me out when I need it. I got 2 quarts of yamilube and a quart of gear oil which will last years, for around $25. I have enough oil left that next time I will only need 1 quart of yamilube, second oil change cost - $5. I didn't check the valves this time, but I took a look at where/how and I will definitely be doing that myself.

I know, If anybody is in my area and wants to pay me $100 to change their oil just let me know. :naught: I'll even buy the oil.

[TheShok]

if you do scheduled maintennance yourself, will that typically void the warranty? I basically do all my own work from mild maintenance to wild turbo conversions, but I haven't really had to ever worry about a warranty before.

[recumbentsrcool]

No, doing your own maintence don't void the warranty. You'll need to keep reciepts of your parts to show that you bought the parts; or something like that!

You know, if you can find a friendly mechanic , they can show you how to check your the valve lash. I'd rather be shown stuff then have to read a manual. Checking the valve should cost $50 or less. You might only need to have it checked if its making a noice. Anyone have any options?

[TheShok]

well i used to do valves on old aircooled vw's, so i'm assuming not much different than that, other than the obvious differences like how you get the valvecover off :)

[brian1wills]

well i used to do valves on old aircooled vw's, so i'm assuming not much different than that, other than the obvious differences like how you get the valvecover off :)

Ive done my share of work on old VW's, and while those are easy, I think the vino will be even easier. I belive one valve is under the oil filler cap and the other is under a similar plug right below the first one.

I haven't tried it yet but thats what I noticed while doing the oil change.

[TheShok]

well then yeh, that sounds pretty easy. the plastic panels have to come off for this tho, right?
I just went riding for like 20 mins and found out this seat makes my butt numb. I might have to look into some custom seating.

[waterinthefuel]

well then yeh, that sounds pretty easy. the plastic panels have to come off for this tho, right?
I just went riding for like 20 mins and found out this seat makes my butt numb. I might have to look into some custom seating.

Ahh, if you go to webmd you can type in "vinobutt", and they'll describe a numb hiney after riding a Yamaha Vino for more than 10 or 15 minutes. The cure is to get off, stretch your legs and get back on!

And yes, adjusting the valves is easy. Getting to them is almost a joke. The oil cap being one, the screw cap the other. Good grief. No, you don't really need to remove any side panels as you can turn the crank with a wrench on the flywheel and get to the valves only taking off panel A as described in the owners manual (the same one you take off to change the oil or spark plug).

[twcrew]

I can ride for about 45 minutes before vinobutt kicks in... and that isn't pleasant. The previous owner had purchased an AirHawk cushion for the seat, but I haven't used it because I was still learning to get used to how the bike felt as a newbie... but now that I've gotten that and trust myself and the bike more, I might just start using the AirHawk now! I believe it's considered the "small" (according to the website, dimensions are 14.0 inches wide x 18.0 inches long, and match the seat shape very well).

Selah

[BarryT]

Folks.....in my manual it says the valves don't need any adjustment until 6 months or 2000mi. The 600 mile check is just an oil change and making sure nothing has "come loose" . I don't have any intention of looking at the valves till 2000 mi. The valve clearance isn't spec'd in the owners manual. I guess I'll have to look around for a shop manual......unless one of you folks can post the appropriate pages ;)

[TheShok]

I have a long time to go until I have to worry about the valves, since I basically will use mine to putt around the neighborhood on the weekend.

[isoscelesjones]

Could someone put together a definitive, step-by-step guide on valve adjustments?

[waterinthefuel]

The guide you need is in the service manual. I have one in PDF format if you want it.

BarryT, you are incorrect. The owners manual states that the valves should be adjusted after 1 month or 600 miles, then at 2k, 4k 6k miles after that.



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[jimmi56]

I talked to the Yamaha Shop nearby and they dont check the valves until the 2000, so if you take it in for the services before that.. they wont get checked.

[scootertrash]

It does not say they "need to be adjusted".
It says "check and adjust"
If they check fine, which they nearly always do at 600 miles, they don't need to be adjusted.

[BarryT]

Waterinthe fuel. My owners manual is different. The 1000km periodic maintenance chart has only one item and it is "Adjust Engine Idle Speed" not "Check and adjust" as it says in yours. Mine is also very different in the spark plug section. It says only "Check Condition, Clean and Regap" there is no notation at all about replacing the plug. Mine is a 2005 Vino 125 for the Canadian market...perhaps the manual is slightly different.