Working-in your Vino 125.

[SixSteppa]

Hi all. Just purchased a 2006 vino125. Reading the manual online about the 1st 1000kms (i'm in canada) and wondering if i can pick your experiences about working the baby in. Any suggestions about ensuring the scoot "ages" properly? As well as any suggestions that help such as certain plugs etc... The category in sales seems geared to 70cc bykes. Any 125 users add a stage one kit or it counter-productive? Thx for any feedback...Is it friday yet??? Receiving her on Aug 4th...longest week of my life...dreaming---> ::handleba

[jeffreywkim]

HI, I also have a Vino 125 scooter and how you break it in is for the first 300 miles you are to only go a third throttle, then 300 to 600 you are to go only half throttle. However, factory manufacture is very conservative and actually you can full open throttle the scoot, but don't hold it wide open for any length of time. You want to always vary your speed, never staying at one speed too long.

YOu also have to get a 600 mile break in service done at the dealer. If you bought this scooter to save gas money, you will be extremely disappointed to find out it costs just as much money to operate a scooter as your car. Every 2000 miles you will have to get a vavle adjustment which is around 200 dollars with parts and labor. Best advise it to go out and get yourself your own shop manual.

[urbanensis]

Valve adjustment every 2000 miles? That sounds pretty conservative. I KNOW I'll never get around to doing it, and I'm certainly not paying $200 for it. Maybe I should pick up a shop manual myself. To anyone who has done this before, Is it very difficult?

[jeffreywkim]

I have done a valve adjustment on my GSXR750 and it is easy if you know what you are doing. However, if you don't then it is like anything else. I have bought the factory shop manual and while it is better than a lot others I have seen, it is designed for the person who already knows about motorcyles. For instance, to check the intake valve, you have to be sure the piston is at top dead center and in the compression stroke. If you don't use an ignition timer, you could be in the power stroke instead!! Hence, you will have to use that timer to know which TDC cycle you are in. If you don't know or have never done a valve adjustment, I wouldn't try it because you can mess up your entire valve train, possibly bend a valve or damage your piston. But if you are driving conservatively and putting around, you can probably get away with checking them every four thousand miles. if you don't check valves periodically, they could tighten up and then yuo will burn them

[recumbentsrcool]

I stopped by a local scooter shop and asked the price to rebuild the vino 125 engine. For the piston,rings and gaskets plus install is around $200. I stopped by this shop due to all the other dealers being closed on my day off. Yamaha quoted me $1,800 ( i assume) for a complete rebuild .
Anyhoo, the cost to check the valve is $49.00 ( one hour labor) and it rarely needs to be adjusted. Its said you can hear it if its out of adjustment. The adjustment schedule in the manual is every 4,000 miles. I commute on my 125cc 1,000 miles a month and have only changed my oil and final fluid. 3,500 miles and faster then ever!!

[Sorrow]

If anyone can get a rebuild for 200 dollars. Make them sign that they can do it for that.....will never happen. I just spent 7 hours doing the BIG Bore kit and I know my way around the 125 engine well.

[SixSteppa]

"For the piston,rings and gaskets plus install is around $200. I stopped by this shop due to all the other dealers being closed on my day off. Yamaha quoted me $1,800 ( i assume) for a complete rebuild."

Think he meant 2000$.

[scootertrash]

Apples and Oranges.

Ring job or complete rebuild?
Besides, what's the point?

[recumbentsrcool]

I think he was reffering to a top half overhaul for $200. He said most of the money was for labor. They have a website if anyone wants to ask them. When i asked him what could be done to the the 125, he mentioned this site. So, what would be the going rate for a rebuild? I'm sure that would greatly depend on the condition of the engine.

[waterinthefuel]

HI, I also have a Vino 125 scooter and how you break it in is for the first 300 miles you are to only go a third throttle, then 300 to 600 you are to go only half throttle.
YOu also have to get a 600 mile break in service done at the dealer. If you bought this scooter to save gas money, you will be extremely disappointed to find out it costs just as much money to operate a scooter as your car. Every 2000 miles you will have to get a vavle adjustment which is around 200 dollars with parts and labor. Best advise it to go out and get yourself your own shop manual.

That's not all true. The manual doesn't say "don't go above 1/3." It says "no prolonged throttle above 1/3". Big difference. The first says it's almost dangerous to break in on the city surface streets. Second basically says if you take it easy, you can drive it work even when new.

There are no parts in a valve adjustment. It's not hard to figure out which stroke the engine is on. There will only be one TDC with both valves closed. If you don't already know this don't touch your engine. That being said...

I've already purchased a service manual. Adjusting the valves looks very very easy. You can save yourself a small fortune doing it yourself. Heck, pull off your oil filler cap. There's one of the valves and the bolt (screw, nut, whatever) to adjust it!! See how easy it is?

I have a 200cc Honda 4 wheeler which is looking at, oh 15 years old, with 13 years of that useful service life (she was 2 model years old when I bought it brand new) I think I had the valves adjusted one time in its lifetime when it was just past break in, and it's never looked back since. My bike runs as good as any on the showroom floor.

A 600 mile break in? Cars only do a 500 mile break in, and they're good for 200k miles with proper maintaince. A little scooter that might make it to 30k has a 600 mile break in? Rediculous.

Don't forget what they told you when you bought your scoot, only take it to a YAMAHA AUTHORIZED DEALER for service. Hmmm....a bike that has more maintaince items to be done by that YAMAHA AUTHORIZED DEALER than my truck does.....and they want it only done at their dealership? Can anyone say PROFIT??

Don't be scared of your scoot. You can do alot of the stuff right there in your own driveway with a little studying (sp?) up on your part and a little patience and TLC.

[kolohe1]

I just picked up an '06 vino 125 and it feels real sluggish off the line and I can hear the valves pinging when I get on the throttle. Is this normal for break in periods? Its got super unleaded in it, and only about 40 miles on it so far. It gets up to speed slowly, but expected more out of a 125. I read that it will feel more powerful after the break in period. Any advice?

[waterinthefuel]

If you aren't mechanically inclined bring it to Yamaha. If you are check the valve clearance. If you feel you can do it but don't have the manual I can help you. Tell us more info.