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rydah
09-21-2004, 11:05 PM
Cal i have a old schooler a 2000 and i got plenny parts for my bike. this bike was made for over 10 years there are tons of parts around for this bike. i bike is cherry, yamaha blue with 12" bi-whiz rims.

Zuma88
09-24-2004, 12:33 PM
thats a lie ther a over 800 after market parts for www.50cc.nl or www.jollymoto.nl an chrome panels for pre 2002 zumas at www.badmotorscooterparts.com.

i have a malossi 70cc kit, MHR cylinder head, Tecnigas Next R and Tecnigas Racing 70, Malossi Variator, malossi and polini clutchs, malossi fly, and polini 2g clutch,
pre 2002 zumas have alot more power then even a 2004 zuma with everything the same but a better exhuast.
new zuma's are heavy and ther fornt disk brake Brakes as in broken.
go to www.strokeitimports.com and go under videos and click attention police and it has a pre 2002 zuma(1999) doing wheelies at 65mph or 123kph and it has a 70cc kit on it.

rydah
09-24-2004, 11:16 PM
zuma 88, the american older zumas to me look better than the bug eye zumas, but they dont make power when modified. the new zumas can get the mhr team or speed or cross kits or the polini evo, which are watercooled kits. those watercooled kits make more power than the aircooled kit. that black zuma on the video is a newer bike. in europe they still make the nice looking zumas but they have the better flat motor kinda like a vino but with a longer trans of the zuma. you can check out the specs on that black bike at heavymotoring and see that he has a malossi mhr watercooled set up.
oh yeah the mhr kit that you got is that the bridge port exhaust and single ring, if so you really should change that tech pipe for a evo or malossi race pipe, or even polini 4race pipe is good. that tech pipe is holding you back plenny.

Zuma88
09-25-2004, 06:49 AM
i the malossi mhr exhuast is tight but, give just a little less of the line then the tecnigas Racing 70. friend owns one with a MHR cylinder Kit MHR Crank MHR over Range kit, MHR 28mm Carb, and malossi TC and cdi.
and MHR spring dive gears. top permance crank case cover. Malossi gear box shield. and modified the rear rim to take a disk brake.
his ped is some crazy **** 92mph top speed and can beat a sport bike off the line, that is a honda RR1000. 0-60 in 4.2secs it is high right now becuase he is still braking in his clutch. he also modified a scoup on the side of his bide to force air to his carb. he also has a Jolly Moto exhaust ther best one.
i would recommend getting a polini 2g clutch over the 1 in the MHR over range kit. my friend used to smoke his clutch bell and lighted up spring and did every thing he could think of to stop it, so he went and bought a 107mm polini 2g clutch, he's still braking it in but he hasen't smoked it once :cool:

rydah
09-25-2004, 08:05 AM
you can still get all the MHR and Polini Cross and Evo kits and water cool it.
if i order my water cooled kit and the MHR crank it will put out 16hp
i have it now at 9.5hp MHR head Malossi cylinder kit, Malossi MHR 2000 Variator, Malossi fly and polini 2g clutch. Im putting a exhuast that is build for 70cc motors on it so that should help alot. I can get a Over Range kit for mine and i will have to mod the crank case. but i dont have 349.00 right now. :(
there are all kinda of good exhuast most are the same bands as the newer zuma. cylinder kit are almost the same expt the oldder has two more then newer.
i love the old school zumas, you can get chrome panels rims forks,(crank case 989.00)


Zuma show me a watercooled cylinder kit for the upright engines. nobody makes one. they only way to get one is to convert one over to watercooled. the best cylinders that are out there for the upright motors are aircooled polini evo's and malossi mhr. there are no speed or cross set ups. you should put some pix on here of your friends bike with a read disk brake. i never seen one on a zuma but i know it can be done using the rear half of a aerox or someother bike like that.

Zuma88
09-25-2004, 12:47 PM
www.50cc.nl go under yamaha and then 2002< zuma
i have heard form some that riding water cooled motors in thw winter can screw your performance up as well as brake or head cylinder head that is

i would give my pre 2002 zuma up for anything but a stroker honda elite or a derbi GP1

stroker hondas can go well over 100mph 123 stroker with stef pipe and 38mm carb, with a Dio disk brake, that there is one major scooter.
i used to rider elites till i felt the power of a zuma.
Elite mods are alot of money a good pipe can run you 400.00 and carbs are 280. and then you got the cylinder kits witch are around 500.00 with mini stroker. a full stroker 123cc is like 800.00 and you have to cut your crank case

rydah
09-26-2004, 02:35 AM
www.50cc.nl go under yamaha and then 2002< zuma
i have heard form some that riding water cooled motors in thw winter can screw your performance up as well as brake or head cylinder head that is

i would give my pre 2002 zuma up for anything but a stroker honda elite or a derbi GP1

stroker hondas can go well over 100mph 123 stroker with stef pipe and 38mm carb, with a Dio disk brake, that there is one major scooter.
i used to rider elites till i felt the power of a zuma.
Elite mods are alot of money a good pipe can run you 400.00 and carbs are 280. and then you got the cylinder kits witch are around 500.00 with mini stroker. a full stroker 123cc is like 800.00 and you have to cut your crank case
Zuman i dont know where you are getting you prices from but those prices are close to double the prices i pay for my stroker parts. i can build to honda strokers for the price of what i got into my jog. just my pipe, cylinder and crank is close a lil over 800, thats not including the complete tranny, radiator, waterpump, gears, intake and carb, that would be close to another 600. if you look at it strokers are cheap to build.
i go on that site all the time and there aint no watercooled set ups for the 2002 and under zumas. in taiwan a company used to make one that was for special order only and they stopped making them a while ago so that one dont even count. the best use guys can do is get the mhr that i got or the polini evo, the one i wish i had.

Zuma88
09-26-2004, 06:51 AM
like i said honda elite parts are alot of cash.
the Stef pipe alone is 300.00 that is one reson i sold it.

rydah
09-26-2004, 01:11 PM
like i said honda elite parts are alot of cash.
the Stef pipe alone is 300.00 that is one reson i sold it.
wow thats a lot of money for a sef pipe. i had a big sef can pipe and i bought it for less than 200 and now i have a koso can pipe and it cost me 180. whoever is selling your those parts are cheating you. like i said before dont buy nothing from them. i can see why you sold you honda. if you ever get another one my friend owns a really nice shop out here in hawaii and i am sure he will give you the best prices you will ever find. you can build that stroker for cheaper than building your zuma.

Zuma88
09-26-2004, 11:03 PM
i buying my zuma all ready modified with a 72cc malossi, with MHR cylinder head, tecnigas next exthuast, im buy a few more addons

rydah
09-26-2004, 11:30 PM
i buying my zuma all ready modified with a 72cc malossi, with MHR cylinder head, tecnigas next exthuast, im buy a few more addons

what bore size is that cylinder. my malossi mhr cylinder kit is a 47mm and that with the stoke stroke comes out to only 68cc, the polini 47.6 makes the bikes a real 70cc. the cylinder thats on that bike is that the alloy one with the single ring and bridge port exhaust. the malossi cast iron cylinders are junk, the polini corsa is way better.

Zuma88
09-27-2004, 08:57 AM
my bore is 48mm witch puts my at almost 71cc
it is auminum. i dont like the single ring pistons they give great torque but suck be sides that at lest the two i have had

Zuma88
09-27-2004, 08:59 AM
polini cost alot more for there best compaired to a Malossi MHR race kit.

rydah
09-29-2004, 12:06 AM
out here where i live the malossi parts cost more than polini. i think it depends on the dealer.

Zuma88
09-29-2004, 07:44 AM
yea ture i always order my parts for over sea's they are about 25.oo cheaper.
bad motor scooter in ohio has some zuma parts as well as chrome panels for pre buggy zuma

rydah
09-29-2004, 11:59 PM
i order'd some parts from badmotorscooter and the service sucked. i order'd that zuma speedo and it didnt fit my bike and they Skull over there told me that if i wanted to return the speedo there would be a restocking fee. hows that, for something he said that would fit. that place is a rip off. i will never buy from them again.

Zuma88
09-30-2004, 07:25 AM
bad motor scooter is stupid they dont like people .
i asked them if they have any honda elite parts and they told me to look for my self, and i said you did put all your zuma parts on ther that is why im asking and he told me to F^c >| off
the only thing i would order form them is the chrome panels and that is because no other place has them

mikhail masevich
09-30-2004, 09:25 PM
What is a good place to buy a big bore kit for a 2002 Zuma I want to do whellies my stock 50cc is to weak plus stock variator and roller weights. I can do a whellie on my 2002 but at like 15 mph I drop it because not enough power :mad:

rydah
09-30-2004, 10:07 PM
polini cost alot more for there best compaired to a Malossi MHR race kit.
remember you get what you pay for.
if you want to do wheelies get yourself a polini 4race cylinder, they have plenny bottom end to make wheelies more easy.

Zuma88
10-01-2004, 08:18 AM
i just one 4 times as good and has 5 more horse power then the polini 4 race.
I have a Malossi MHR 72cc full race cylinder port & polished it puts out 20 horse's that isn't no lie and i got a crapy tecnigas exhuast on it (NEXT RACING) and it has MHR 19mm Carb kit MHR 2000 variator

isoscelesjones
10-01-2004, 08:43 AM
i just one 4 times as good and has 5 more horse power then the polini 4 race.

Huh?

Zuma88
10-01-2004, 08:50 AM
the polini race cylinder only puts out 16 horses by it self with a 19mm carb.
the malossi MHR puts out 20 horse power with a 19mm carb,i have test it with the port and polish job.

rydah
10-01-2004, 10:56 PM
i just one 4 times as good and has 5 more horse power then the polini 4 race.
I have a Malossi MHR 72cc full race cylinder port & polished it puts out 20 horse's that isn't no lie and i got a crapy tecnigas exhuast on it (NEXT RACING) and it has MHR 19mm Carb kit MHR 2000 variator
oh yeah zuma you are a smart person to get the full race cylinder. i also have a mhr race cylinder on my bike and i like it very much. does your cylinder have a bridge exhaust port? yeah you really have to get ride of that tecnigas pipe, i got a polini evo pipe and it works really good. i had that mhr 2000 pulley on my bike too but i changed it cuzz it really didnt work that good. i got the new polini speed trans (over range) now and its way way better. let me know what kinds of speeds you are gettin on your bike. it should be at least 65 if you got gears.

Zuma88
10-02-2004, 10:27 AM
i got it to 70mph with out gear i opened up the ports and polisd them,
i also modified the cylinder head for more compression.
70mph is not that offten i run about 63 most of the time 65 on a good day,
im broke right now and dont have the money to get the up gear kit.

Lennox
10-02-2004, 10:47 AM
stop giving the first job free, and you might make some money.

Zuma88
10-02-2004, 11:13 AM
i do make money but the giving the first job free get more people to come the more that come the more money

Lennox
10-02-2004, 12:47 PM
then you shouldn't be broke?:rolleyes:

Zuma88
10-02-2004, 01:12 PM
i gave up my pay check to order somthings

King Vino
10-02-2004, 01:56 PM
Not really a job then, if you don't get paid :p Anycase, closing this one to open up part two!