I'm really considering a vino as my baby

[Kailem]

Hi, I've been reading this forum quite a bit lately, and I appreciate all the great posts everyone has made.

Today I was fortunate enough to test-ride a Vino. I must say... I absolutely loved it! I drove it for a good half-hour. Even though it was pouring-down rain I had a blast. When I came back to the Yamaha dealer, the salesman looked at me a bit strange due to my soaked-through clothes.

The used model (which I rode today) has 6200 kms on it (I'm in Canada). I'm fairly certain it was still restricted as it didn't seem to go much past 50km/h (I'm not sure of the conversion, but I believe 80km/h is about 50mph.) It's being sold for $1800 CAD ($1,486.11 USD). The brand new ones are $2400 CAD ($1,981.30 USD) which is MSRP, I believe. Hopefully soon I will get a chance to travel to some other fairly nearby Yamaha dealers and see what they have. Would you guys recommend I get a used model?

I have a few questions concerning performance upgrades. First, I've heard a lot of talk about upjetting and rejetting after removing the variator restrictor. I don't really know much when it comes to mechanics, so I'm not really sure what this means. I know that I live in a fairly low elevation, (I can see the ocean if I look outside my window,) which is what affects the need for rejetting, am I right?

Also, I'm not sure of how to check spark plugs, but I'm sure I'll figure that out by the time I get a scooter, (As well as a host of other things.)

Is there anything else I should do before buying a scooter? Any additional equipment I should consider buying?

Thanks in advance for any help!

--Kailem

[Aviatrixie]

Welcome to the Provo forums, Keilem! :)

I have a Vino too and really enjoy mine. I'm sure you would be happy with it too.

The price that dealer is asking for the used Vino seems a bit high to me for the mileage that's on it, but then dealers do tend to overprice used bikes like that. I'd either talk him down or buy a new one for a few hundred more. That's just me though.

Derestricting the variator would have no affect on jetting. Derestricting the exhaust might, but many do not consider rejetting a requirement until going to an expansion chamber. My Vino ran fine derestricted without rejetting and even runs fine with the Stage One kit installed, but now that it's warming up and I'm starting to ride regularly I will look into the jetting issue and post my results in the forums. It's entirely possible I would benefit from a larger jet.

Good luck with your Vino-quest and let us know what you get!

Hi, I've been reading this forum quite a bit lately, and I appreciate all the great posts everyone has made.

Today I was fortunate enough to test-ride a Vino. I must say... I absolutely loved it! I drove it for a good half-hour. Even though it was pouring-down rain I had a blast. When I came back to the Yamaha dealer, the salesman looked at me a bit strange due to my soaked-through clothes.

The used model (which I rode today) has 6200 kms on it (I'm in Canada). I'm fairly certain it was still restricted as it didn't seem to go much past 50km/h (I'm not sure of the conversion, but I believe 80km/h is about 50mph.) It's being sold for $1800 CAD ($1,486.11 USD). The brand new ones are $2400 CAD ($1,981.30 USD) which is MSRP, I believe. Hopefully soon I will get a chance to travel to some other fairly nearby Yamaha dealers and see what they have. Would you guys recommend I get a used model?

I have a few questions concerning performance upgrades. First, I've heard a lot of talk about upjetting and rejetting after removing the variator restrictor. I don't really know much when it comes to mechanics, so I'm not really sure what this means. I know that I live in a fairly low elevation, (I can see the ocean if I look outside my window,) which is what affects the need for rejetting, am I right?

Also, I'm not sure of how to check spark plugs, but I'm sure I'll figure that out by the time I get a scooter, (As well as a host of other things.)

Is there anything else I should do before buying a scooter? Any additional equipment I should consider buying?

Thanks in advance for any help!

--Kailem

[XPS1210]

I'd have to agree that it's a bit pricey... however you didn't state the year of the scooter... if it's a used 04 with those miles... then it might be worth more then a 01 with those miles...

50kph is 31mph which is decent for a restricted vino. there is a washer in the variator that can be removed to make it faster as well as in the exhaust pipe then you will get closer to 72 kph which is 45 mph...

I paid MSRP for my zuma at $1799 brand new... so $1486 really sounds high...

I'd definately look around more... might even see about dealers that are further away and having it shipped... I know you can pick a vino up on eBay for $1000 US or so, then if you got it shipped... could end up costing less...

Basically make sure you do your research before you buy... Lots of people start with one scooter, don't like it or can't make it do what they want and sell it to get something else in the end...

[Kailem]

Thanks for the responses, Jared and aviatrixie!

So I took the Vino out for another test ride today. The dealer seemed a little bit annoyed... ^^; I got to ask him a few questions, though, with some interesting answers.
The Vino is a 2001. I also asked him about restrictors on it and he told me that "the restrictor had been removed and it has been upjetted." This kind of shocked me at first because I thought that a derestricted Vino should go much faster than 50km/h (like you said, Jared, around 72km/h.) Is there anything else that could be keeping the Vino a bit on the slow side, perhaps due to its age and/or mileage? It seemed to be in great shape. Other than that, I think that maybe only one of the restrictors had been removed.

Something else that I was thinking about: Is theft a big deal with scooters? Should I bring around some sort of chain or locking mechanism and lock it up whenever I park?

One last question for now, (thanks for helping me out,) How much would it cost to upjet if it turns out I need to? I still don't really get what it is... :dunce:

[XPS1210]

worn belt and rollers could do it as well... which would cost less then $50 US or so...

I definately would lock it... if not just the wheels to each other, the bike to a pole or tree so it's hard to pick up and put in a truck... you know...

upjet... costs would be $5.00 US if you got the right size jet to start... more likely you will end up ordering a couple of jets at less then $5.00 US...


I think the dealer must be crazy... it might have the exhaust only or the variator only but unless the belt is 1/4 inch thick... it's got to be restricted still....

[VINOGT]

You don't need to upjet a derestricted Vino. It is made to run on the stock jet, restricted or not.

*A J*