Derbi GP-1 250

[marylandmark]

I was chatting with my dealer and he said a new Derbi is coming online in a few months:

GP-1 250! It will be an absolute monster and proclaimed to be "The fastest in class" Due out mid summer and no price has been discussed...

Any one hear any gossip about it?

[XPS1210]

no but I can see it in your future....

[florida derbi rocket]

I was chatting with my dealer and he said a new Derbi is coming online in a few months:

GP-1 250! It will be an absolute monster and proclaimed to be "The fastest in class" Due out mid summer and no price has been discussed...

Any one hear any gossip about it?
Mark......see the Thread in here called.."2005 GP-1 isnt a scooter anymore"..this Bike comes in 50cc and a couple bigger sizes...

[marylandmark]

I read that thread- been a while but thought it was only 50cc, not bigger ones.

Derbi GP1 250cc Liquid Cooled 4-Stroke


DERBI WINS AT INTERMOT SHOW

The Motorcycle Design Association (MDA) have once more acclaimed Derbi for the
design of their products as they did last year at the Paris Show. ...The GP1 has gone to
repeat the success at the 2004 Munich Intermot exhibition within the Scooter category,
presented in...250cc versions, calling for a change and revolution of the smaller bike market.

Derbi's new presentations at Intermot reflect perfectly the philosophy of the brand.
Technology, design, innovation, quality, leadership and personality that cast a defining
word on the models to mark the style and be the reference point for all young Europeans.


REVOLUTION OF THE SPECIES

Following the 'New Derbi' philosophy, offering young people products of high
quality and technological refinement, it was inherently necessary that any new
scooter project would have to represent a step forward from anything that currently
exists on the market.

A scooter without compromises, capable of breaking the mould to be and give
that little something extra; something different. It wasn't enough simply to develop
what already existed. What was needed was a 'revolution of the species'.

The GP1 has been created with that philosophy in mind, being a scooter that
has changed in every aspect other than the position of the engine.

Gone are the days of a typical layout, with the rear swingarm and engine fixed
elastically into the chassis - perfect for comfort but with the boundaries of sporting
performance severely limited. Now is the time for a machine with a dynamic
balance, stability and security guaranteed by a double-beam chassis in aluminium,
fixed central engine and equal weight division between the front and rear. In this
way, differences between the scooter and a race bike become reduced to a minimum.

From this package, so natural to the world of sport and racing, comes the GP1.
A Derbi product which has become their most sporting ever. Every detail stands
out from the competition, making it a reference point for the segment.

The presence of a radial front brake, upside-down forks of 38 millimetres,
ventilated discs and 14 inch wheels with 120/70 tyres on the front and 140/60
on the rear, make you forget we are talking about a scooter. Only the ease of
riding, thanks to an automatic gearbox, and storage space for a helmet under
the seat, remind us of its scooter genes. The stability, braking, safety and dynamic
appeal are more appropriate to a motorcycle than a scooter. The same can be
said for feeling and handling, inherited directly from the DRD experience in the
MotoGP World Championship.

The GP1 features the latest version of the Piaggio group's two-stroke motor,
recently refined with a new fixed lower exhaust like a Grand Prix motorcycle,
with the maximum level of performance and within Euro2 gas emission regulations.

125 - 250 SPORT-TOURING

From the base of the exclusive 50cc model, there will also be 125cc and 250cc
versions. Increasing the cylinder means dealing with a sports vehicle, with a
clear ambition and vocation for 'sport-touring'. In order to transform the racing
performance of the GP1 into a more balanced 'sport-touring' attitude, adapted
for adult riders and with space for a passenger, work has been focussed on
maximizing space, securing the comfort of the passenger and producing a
performance which is not compensated by smooth power delivery.


Although in this case the engine returns to its traditional position, we still
have an aluminium chassis and swinging arm, with a single central shock
which offers rigidity, stability and handling never before seen in the scooter sector.

Whether it be carrying one or two people, the bigger cylinder versions of the
GP1 offer an excellent ideal for urban commuting or longer journeys, adapted
to riders looking for excitement, scooter performance and a design which
won't go unnoticed.


GP1 250
Technical characteristics

Engine Piaggio four-stroke EURO 2
Bore x stroke 72 x 60 mm.
Cylinder capacity 244 c.c.
Carburettor Del'Orto17,5 mm.
Cooling system Liquid
Starting system Electric
Compression ratio 12,3:1
Maximum power 22 HP / 6.500 r.p.m.
Fuel Unleaded petrol
Lubrication system Oil pump
Ignition Electronic C.D.I.
Spark plug Champion NR2C
Primary transmission Gear assembly
Clutch Automated
Front suspension 40 mm. inverted hydraulic fork. 90 mm. travel
Rear suspension Monoshock.
Tyres 120/70x14" - 140/60x14"
Front brake 245 mm. ventilated disc. Radial caliper
Rear brake 200 mm. ventilated disc. Radial caliper
Battery 12V 9Ah
wheelbase 1.1410 mm.
Maximum height 1.194 mm.
Maximum lenght 1.932 mm.
Maximum width 716 mm.
Fuel tank 14 L

[pghchico]

From what i've seen and read, It looks more like a motorcycle than a scooter. And you'll need a motorcycle license to drive it , being that it's a 250cc. It'll flop here in the states. Why would a person want that machine when i could get a Kawasaki Ninja 250cc, cheaper new, and really cheap used. and the kawasaki will break 100mph. I think also the GP1 will still be an auto, what kind of limp wristed girly man is gonna ride an automatic sport bike ? Maybe they will offer them in Pink.

[larry-new]

THIS limp wristed girly man thinks that having 22hp between my legs would get my butt down the road in style...

I have no affection for a manual shift bike... My other vehicles, all trucks, I wouldn't have an automatic. But on a bike, I've other things to do, like stay alive, and don't need the added hassle of shifting.

The Kymco B&W 250 claims 16bhp....22 will make this a rocket...

Larry

[Lennox]

THIS limp wristed girly man thinks that having 22hp between my legs would get my butt down the road in style...

I have no affection for a manual shift bike... My other vehicles, all trucks, I wouldn't have an automatic. But on a bike, I've other things to do, like stay alive, and don't need the added hassle of shifting.

The Kymco B&W 250 claims 16bhp....22 will make this a rocket...

Larry


I would NEVER ride a manual motocycle........ what does shifting and staying alive have to do with anything? I actually WISH that more scooters were manual....... mush be for people that cannot shift :rolleyes:

[Aviatrixie]

LOL@Lennox!!! Ya know... it's funny how habits are instilled. But I digress...

Last summer I was talking to the guy that lives next to me, telling him I needed to change my oil. Now... he rides a big Harley... but he told me it was a piece of cake and offered to do it for me. Of course I said yes and let nature take it's course.

So... he did everything right. He changed the oil, cleaned the screen, even oiled my chain. But... he used auto oil.

Soon after the oil change I noticed my clutch slipping. It was worst at high speed. Sara and I were scratching on a twisty back road when I first noticed it. If I tried to accelerate at high speed the clutch would let go and slip.

So now I know. Do NOT use auto oil in your wet clutch motorcycle. There's a reason your motorcycle oil costs $8/qt. I'm still trying to understand that one though! I always thought slippery was a good thing with oil.

I would NEVER ride a manual motocycle........ what does shifting and staying alive have to do with anything? I actually WISH that more scooters were manual....... mush be for people that cannot shift :rolleyes:

[van ringostein]

Well I owned a "crotch-rocket" in high school and it was fun, but I am lazy and would much prefer to just have 2 speeds......stop and go.....now with a GP-1 250, that would give me 3 speeds....stop, go, and go faster. I might look into this, I was thinking of getting a touring bike or scooter this fall, maybe I will get one of these instead, providing it is highway legal of course.

[911elite]

im wanting to make a sleeper taking a honda helex motor and putting it in my honda elite. 250cc 20.5hp and 75mph in that big ol bike imagine what the speed would be with that in my little 165pound bike and a MHR varaitor kit

[crxlurp]

yea, $5000 msrp for one of these bad boys. i think i might just have to buy one. i was gonna get a bike, but then i decided that there are to many good sides to this sexy machine. 1. cheaper insurance 2. sexier than any bike out there. 3. chicks dig scooters. on a bullet bike you just look like some stupid a-hole. scooters have way more class. and dont even think about arguing with me, cause you know im right. :naught:

[florida derbi rocket]

He's right...I've had 2 Girls...(20s-30s) ask about scooting..They wanna park thier cars and scoot.. ;) John