View Full Version : Am I wrong to miss using a clutch?
Roadie
09-29-2010, 11:14 AM
It's about the only thing I wish scooters came with. This after many years of motorcycle riding. Not that I've made any plans to ditch my 125 Vino, but does anybody make one with at least push-button shifting?
Anyway, a clutch would get me more power to the pavement. And I could warm it up with the kickstand down. ;-)
jprestonian
09-29-2010, 07:17 PM
Yes, you are wrong.
:lol:
There's always the Genuine Stella, or an old Vespa shifter. Of course, it's not quite the same.
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Blackbomber
09-30-2010, 07:29 AM
It's all about preference. I was out riding my motorcycle last Thursday, and found myself pulling in the clutch (thinking it was the rear brake) when slowing down. Kind of the opposite. I know for a fact I don't miss shifting in the car, but I use the car for a different type of travel.
Putting things into perspective: I used to own an Aprilia RS50, kitted to 68cc. This is a Minarelli AM6 powered 6 speed manual two stroke cycle capable of 80mph (kitted). I raced a friend with a stock 49cc MZ Moskito (min horizontal twist and go scooter). He would TAKE me in a drag from stop to 40mph (his top speed) EVERY TIME. And listed wet weight on his bike is only six pounds lighter than my bike (don't forget my carbon Jollymoto pipe MORE than offet that difference), and he is the same size as me, so it's not a weight issue. In small bore applications, twist and go really puts the power to the pavement better than a manual, because you are constantly in the engine's peak torque rpm (when tuned correctly). On a four stroke like your 125, there would be less of a difference, but I bet a theoretical manual version of your bike would be slower in acceleration.
To recap, I had a 12hp (estimated) bike with a manual that got beat by a heavier 4.2hp (factory spec) CVT scooter. And we did switch off to see if it was the rider, with the same results. It's because the CVT was at peak torque 100% of the time, my bike was at peak torque for, let's say 10% of the time during the races. You might miss shifting, but you would miss the acceleration the CVT affords more. Not to mention CVT's produce less emissions, and can theoretically be more fuel efficient.
zeonsredcomet
09-30-2010, 09:06 AM
BlackBomber is correct. I just my motorcycle last friday and my awesomely modified Zuma can keep up with it to 60 mph or so but after that the shifter wins but the zuma since it doesn't have to shift kicks but and keeps up with alot of bigger motorycycles on the road.
Gabe502000
10-09-2010, 10:01 PM
No, Your're not. After 40 years of shifting gears,and adjusting chains. I don't miss either one! The guilt will leave quickly! :D ::usa:: Gabe
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