Technomoto variators... what do you think?

[XPS1210]

Just wondering what you guys think of the Technomoto brand variators?

[Lennox]

It is OK for the price. If all your doing is a stageone, then it should work ok for you. Once you start making some REAL power, it is going to fail.

[King Vino]

I've heard people rave and rant about it. For stage-I it's fine, but as Lennox said, it all depends on where you plan to take your scooter. I would not go with it for S2 or up.

[Davey-boi]

I dunno, I think it's garbage stage 1 or not. There have been a lot without any problems, I havn't had a problem with mine. But, I've heard more than a few horror stories about this variator. It's just not reliable enough, especially when you can get a solid malossi variator for a few bucks more.

[King Vino]

Which leads me back to my initial thoughts about performance parts and scooterists, Davey. Vintage scooter riders work on their scooters, while 2/3rds of the modern scooter rider has no clue what they are doing with any parts they buy, and jsut assume a part they buy will plug in to their scooter and jsut work as if they just bought a new card for their PC, turn on the computer and presto, it works.

[florida derbi rocket]

I know this is taking the thread in a diff direction..but a lot of vintage 1950's Vespa riders around Northeast Florida Have their Scoots fully restored...Painted and Wrenched..."Blank Check" style..when I ask them Questions ..they admit they don't work on them..Hmm..could be different from area to area..

[Davey-boi]

Haha, regardless if you work on vintage or modern scoots... you expect the parts to work properly. No one thinks while their shopping, "Well, this 70cc kit will probably break at 50 miles soooo I'll just buy three!" When I shell out big for parts made for my scoot, they better damn work and be nearly as reliable as stock.

Modern scooterist owners usually don't need to work on their scoots, thats why they don't. Most are fast enough straight from the factory. But alot of us DO work on our scoots. If doing performance mods isn't "working on our scooters", than what do vintage scooter owners do thats so different.

Basically King, your initial thoughts about performance parts and scooterists is worthless and doesn't make any sense. And this coming from a guy without a vintage bike AND has only de-restricted his scoot. I mean no dissrespct King, but that was probably one of the stupidest things you've ever posted. :rolleyes:

[XPS1210]

well...

you have to think, as king said... these upgraded parts are not "plug and play" like computer upgrades...

How many of us bought the 19mm carb and said, How the heck do I make the stock cables work? well... it takes some thought and time... so yes... if you do your own work.. then you can have those bragging rights... even if you don't IE: aviatrixie... she still has the bragging rights even though she had her yamaha mechanic do the upgrades...

some people don't have the time or knowledge to be installing parts... heck some don't know what they are buying...

IE: when I first was gonna upgrade my zuma... I actually placed an order from yamaha of cucamunga... it was a 70cc, carb, leo zx pipe, and a rollers and springs... it was over $700 for these parts... and didn't include everything that I needed...

Thank god they were on a 2 month back order for parts... and I ran into provo... which had the stages kits... as well as the ability to get other parts if needed... and a place to get more knowledge specific to scooters...

heck I have a pretty good background in auto mechanics... but didn't know much about 2 stroke scotoers/motorcycles...

Anyway,

Most of the people who start out in upgrading a scooter... are "NEW TO UPGRADES" and need to advise and knowledge of seasoned scooter mechanics to help with them...

IE: how many times have there been "what do you think of this part" threads... LOTS... or "how do you...." threads...

you know...


besides, it's not nice to tell the administrator he's dumb... you know!

[Aviatrixie]

Jered does make a good point... even if you don't do your own install it's important you understand exactly how the parts being installed work simply so you can make intelligent purchase choices and take the steps to bring all the parts into harmony with proper tuning. That's part of the fun of it all. Before I took my kit and my Vino to the Yamaha shop I made sure I understood what those parts did and how they worked, then took part in the install with him.

Funny... we had a ball. Steve said it was a wonderful change from the everyday work he does as chief mech at the Yamaha shop. Every time some other mech would come over to see what was going on he'd say... yeah... we have that speedo wrapping all the way around the dial!

[florida derbi rocket]

I might have a Vintage attitude...My experience around here for the past Year..If I find a "New' euro scooter owner..they work on their scooter..and are communicative and want to learn more......if I try to talk to a Lammy or Vintage vespa Owner..It's Noses in the Air...they are more concerned that their scooter is a fashion accessory..or makes an Artistic statement(as opposed to an economic)...This Bugs me..cause I have a lot of Real Artist friends..I guess these meetings seperate the Phonies from the real People.....I just think these fakes should ride GEELEYS instead of taking up real vintage Metal scooters.. ;;p

[brianmef]

Does putting on a technomoto variator really give a scooter faster take off and higher top end speed?

[Aviatrixie]

No... putting on a good expansion chamber gives you higher top speed. Putting on a good variator helps you recover from the fact that expansion chamber cost you your acceleration. :)


Does putting on a technomoto variator really give a scooter faster take off and higher top end speed?

[speedy_scooter]

if you tune your clutch and vari right though you shouldnt loose accel with a pipe.

[XPS1210]

correct...

[tbone]

Always thought the tecno looked like junk, but it has performed really well. Until now, I think the tecno is warped. I replaced it with my stock vario with Malossi weights. Runs good. Waiting to get a Malossi vario everyone is always out of stock. Does anyone know the ramp difference between a stock vario and a Malossi?