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JeremyD
02-12-2005, 11:02 AM
I put my over range on and now when I start to go all it will do is rev and go maybe 5 mph I also installed up gears. any ideas what would cause this?
Lennox
02-12-2005, 11:05 AM
I put my over range on and now when I start to go all it will do is rev and go maybe 5 mph I also installed up gears. any ideas what would cause this?

I have no 1st hand experience with the O/R yet..... As soon as Jered logs on, I am sure he can help you.....

I think he (Jered) had a similar problem that may have been caused by a setting on the rear torque driver? Maybe moving a pin to a different hole?
smokin
02-12-2005, 11:16 AM
did you take out the starter gear? ;no
JeremyD
02-12-2005, 11:21 AM
I removed all of the starter components except the motor
JeremyD
02-12-2005, 01:04 PM
I tried changing the torque driver pin settings and it still does it. Should I try going up to the 4.7g rollers instead of the 3.9 in the variator?
JeremyD
02-12-2005, 01:28 PM
Ok this is aggrevating me I changed the weights and it still does it. I dont know what it is.
Lennox
02-12-2005, 01:53 PM
take it all back apart, and re-start...... sometimes this helps :confused: I hope you get it figured out.......
pinkymingeo
02-12-2005, 02:39 PM
Those weights are way too light. With the RS 70 I used to run 5.5gr, though 6 worked very well.
XPS1210
02-12-2005, 04:04 PM
Yeah.. I got the 4.7 rollers in mine... I need to test mine further as I've been under snow all winter and can't even sneak in a test ride...

I'd make sure that the clutch is opening and not just spinning in the bell...
JeremyD
02-12-2005, 07:24 PM
It was opening this morning before I put the over range kit on
XPS1210
02-12-2005, 08:10 PM
do you have a stock clutch or aftermarket? stock bell or aftermarket?

could be your simply spinning and not getting grip with the added torque...
JeremyD
02-12-2005, 08:33 PM
I have the delta clutch and the finned aftermarket bell
XPS1210
02-12-2005, 08:58 PM
heck, I'm a little lost...

I'd check to see if you stripped the crankshaft? maybe it's spinning to start but looses it due to stripped teeth...

Just a thought? Pinky, any ideas?
pinkymingeo
02-13-2005, 03:24 AM
The thing to do is put it on the stand (if you have one) and run it with the tranny cover off. Then you can see what's happening. It sounds like there's an installation problem, and the torque pulley isn't opening. With weights down around 4gr the pulley will take it's time, and top speed isn't gonna be much more than 35-40, but it ought to go faster than 5.
JeremyD
02-13-2005, 09:03 AM
I dont knowe what I did but it is working now. But still it isnt going any faster if not slower than before I put the over range and the up gears in it. I am going around 43.2 by a gps and before I was running about48.2. Now I am using the 4.7 gram weights and before when my techmo variator was on I was using silver rollers with the cap for a total of 5.2 grams. I dont have any idea what it could be. I figured it should run a little faster with the up gears installed. Help!!!!!!!!!!
JeremyD
02-13-2005, 11:27 AM
I just put the black weights which weigh 7.2 with the caps on them in and it would go faster but I still think it should go faster than it is. I dropped my gps going down the road so I cant get a true reading on it now. How hot does the transmission usually get. It was really hot I couldnt hold my hand on the tranny cover but for a couple of seconds because it was so hot. Is that normal?
pinkymingeo
02-13-2005, 12:52 PM
No, that's not normal. Has to be whole lot of clutch slip. The light weights weren't getting the torque pulley open at the revs you turn. The heavy weights are applying more torque to the clutch, against those tall gears, than it can handle. Tall gears are death on a clutch. You need 5.5-6gr to be in the middle. If you lighten up on the clutch adjustment you'll get a stronger engagement. There is no substitute for lots of vent holes in the tranny case. I curently have 40 quarter-inch holes, and plan to add more.
JeremyD
02-13-2005, 12:57 PM
You say to lighten up on my clutch. What springs should I use. I have most every color. And in which notches should I try putting the pad holders in on my delta? Middle, Far out, Or in close, In close right?
pinkymingeo
02-13-2005, 01:37 PM
I haven't tried the Delta. It's known as the strongest clutch, but also the most complicated. I was talking with Tommy at MH. He's used the Delta in racing for years, but tells me he doesn't mess with tuning them. Too much trouble. Somebody told him the setting once, and it worked, so that's what he's used ever since. I'd give him a call. He's a good guy and will steer you right.