scooter wont start, help

[clidale]

it wont start up, i was thinking spark plug so i got a new one and nothing then i was looking at it and i think the engine isn't getting gas to it so i started look at it all for start and i found some pipes as looking unpluged, i made some photos maybe you can tell me more info on what im looking at, i don't know much about scooters, thanx

http://artdesign.org/sco/001.jpg

http://artdesign.org/sco/002.jpg

http://artdesign.org/sco/0003.jpg

http://artdesign.org/sco/0004.jpg

[cant drive 55]

What kind of a scooter is this carb on? Also what brand of carb do you have on your scooter? Might be able to help you with this info.

[clidale]

this be a geely, yea i know its **** but i got it as temp and now i have other plans for it , you can say in artist way but i need it to run, now i know it's a carb, i don't know much about this stuff , the tube in the pic http://artdesign.org/sco/002.jpg do they connect or they stay not connected, i did run fine then i had a gear fixed in the trans and now it wont start after i got it home and did run it for few dyas, any help you can give me would help me, thanx man

[clidale]

http://artdesign.org/sco/002.jpg do they connect or what do they do? looks strange

[Chreaus]

I would hook the other tube up and try it.
You should have a 3 lines off your carb ??????
I'm sure others on here would tell you if I'm correct.
I guess there is a fourth hanging off the bottom. That should be the free one.

More info on the carb model will help alot........

[clidale]

the 2nd tube from bottom is what your saying not to hook up "free one" , then there is the top tube hanging and there is no other tube to hook it up to so then were does it hook up or it just hangs? the two tubes in the pic that hang is all there be, no other tubes that i see, its a geely / vento carb all i know on that

Update: Just got dirty and it's a "Mighty" carburetor? mmm

[RC51 Daytona]

Ok, the Doctor is in... Most two strokes carbs are pretty simple, the line could be a overflow line from the carb, it could be the line from your automatic oil injector, which is bad, if it is off.. It could be your fuel line. Follow the line back to where it was and see what it is connected to.

If it is a problem of no gas or clogged main jet, try squirting starting fluid in the carb and starting, if it runs for just a couple of seconds, you have a no fuel problem , or a clogged main jet problem. the carb has a main jet and a starter jet, which is smaller.

Go on the web and see if you can find someone who knows your model or an expanded diagram of your engine. lastly, get a service manual , or just go to the dealership and ASK to see the service manual. For free that it.. Dont panic.. two stroke motors are no more complicated than a lawn mower engine.. Good luck. and that will 168.75$ for the Doctors Call.. Just kidding!! :)

[clidale]

thats mad stuff right there sir.doc eh, ok ok one thing per time pls

" the line could be a overflow line from the carb" what line is that? do you see it in photo http://artdesign.org/sco/0004.jpg or in http://artdesign.org/sco/002.jpg? if not tell me were it can be at (im new to this and i want to do my fix it my self, sorry),

the line from your automatic oil injector, were it connects from?, "try squirting starting fluid in the carb" that be taking the top cap off from the carb and spray that in there and then start it?, i read

"for fast, easy starting, spray Pyroil Starting Fluid into the air intake for 2-3 seconds (no more than 3 seconds)" so in the carb or in air intake?

Update: I found this at geely usa parts site
http://www.geely-usa.net/parts/images/catalog/400/2301.jpg

thats the tube i was talking about , so now i know it don't connect, now about the same tube just on the bottom, does it stay free hanging as well is the Q, i just want to make sure the carb is connected right, like maybe some got unpluged on the way home last time, then ill start doing check ups as the doc said.

[clidale]

I got Starting Fluid today on the way back home, were should i spray it, carb or taking the filter off and in the air intake?

[shayandaman]

take off the airbox, hold the throttle, and spray some in there. then see if the scooter will turn on. :---

[shayandaman]

also, the disconnected tube looks like an overflow tube(a tube that lets excess gas flow out the carb if too much gets in) because on the arrech carb, it has that also. anyway, i cant really tell too much from those picks. I cant even tell which side the intake manifold is and the airbox. :---

[clidale]

ill pop the airbox off with the filter and spary it in there and ill "hold" throttle, i didn't know that bit, thanx.

i also got carb + choke cleaner, i was told to use it ill have to take the garb cab off and there will be a a plastic plunge thing and i would then "hold" throttle and spary it and then let go off throttle and then i would put the cap back on and start it, was i told right?

[clidale]

also, the disconnected tube looks like an overflow tube(a tube that lets excess gas flow out the carb if too much gets in) because on the arrech carb, it has that also. anyway, i cant really tell too much from those picks. I cant even tell which side the intake manifold is and the airbox. :---

yes there is this tube http://www.geely-usa.net/parts/imag...og/400/2301.jpg now i know it doesn't hookup, and there is a 2nd one on the carb bottom i think it's the "overflow" tube that your talking about, so i think that both of them stay not connected to anything.

[shayandaman]

yea, but dont use the carb cleaner with the starter fluid. first try the starter fluid and see if it will turn on. if it doesnt, just clean the carb with the cleaner, then try using the starter fluid again.........anyway if you can get better pictures of the carb- it would be easier for us to help you

[clidale]

yes i know starter first then the carb, ill try to get better pics for you, but my carb is this http://www.geely-usa.net/parts/imag...og/400/2301.jpg

[shayandaman]

yes i know starter first then the carb, ill try to get better pics for you, but my carb is this http://www.geely-usa.net/parts/imag...og/400/2301.jpg

it wont let me go to that page, it says it can-not be found..........are you sure thats the correct url? or if it still exists? :---

[clidale]

sorry they had some prob, i did from HD, thats one tube now i know stays not connected

[shayandaman]

i am not sure but i think those are the right connections.... see if they are connected right. a pic of the other side of the carb would help too. :---

[clidale]

two of em them sprays didn't do any thing, still no go hmm but i did put my lil finger in the carb and it does have gas in there so im thinking now it does get gas so what other thing wrong can it be, thanx for that pic thats some good stuff right there

[shayandaman]

two of em them sprays didn't do any thing, still no go hmm but i did put my lil finger in the carb and it does have gas in there so im thinking now it does get gas so what other thing wrong can it be, thanx for that pic thats some good stuff right there

try to see if its sparking, take off the sparkplug and have it connected to the ignition coil, then hold it up to some metal and see if it sparks.

[clidale]

Wont spark at all, i just got my tue free so i peeped and nada :(, what can it be?, i found were the spark plug connects to and it's this box......what is it/called?

http://artdesign.org/wha01.jpg

http://artdesign.org/wha3.jpg

Update: Ah it's a "coil" , can it be broken or there be some thing other? and is mine a "1-prong" or "2-prong"?

[shayandaman]

try and see if all the electricle is hooked up, maybe you accidently disconnected a wire, or maybe a wire got melted or cut............Retrace your steps of what you have messed with...

[clidale]

see like as i was pulling up to park it, it shut off and it didnt start up after at all so i been looking at all plugs, carb and all of it to put simple and all is all butter like but wont spark?

Is there a "Fuse" any were in a scooter? my mate asked (he know some i don't know haah)

[XPS1210]

yes, there is a fuse.... it's located in the battery box, and the scooter will be "dead" totally if it's popped...

did you check your spark on the frame?

[clidale]

the fuse is fine so is the "coil" dead? becouse i can't think of any thing other that wont let it spark.