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BWSman67
07-30-2008, 09:37 AM
It's true. I've got one. Made in France by MBK in 2002. I wonder if that was a regional thing? BTW this is the CDN model.

:confused:

florida derbi rocket
07-30-2008, 04:12 PM
PICTURES!! I just got a 2000 from Marvin.Wondering how those winters were to your scoot.

BWSman67
07-30-2008, 07:43 PM
I'll take some pics tomorrow afternoon when I get back from my Dr.'s appointment.

BWSman67
07-30-2008, 09:14 PM
Ok I dug up a some pics I had on my computer. Here they are. The first picture shows the scooter shortly after I bought it and brought it home.
The second picture is a shot I took after I had my seat padded and re-covered with the back rest I had made for it (you can just see the windscreen is bought for it on the right). It also shows I painted the trunk on the rear rack silver & blue. The last picture is of the front apron/fender with some graphics I put on it.

BWSman67
08-02-2008, 01:07 PM
This is confusing. Here's a photo of the manufacturer's label. It clearly shows the mfg. date as 06/0, but when I punch in my VIN# into one of those online decoders, It comes up a being made in 2002. I wonder if this is a stamping error at the factory?

On another note, I'm replacing the clutch belt and when I took the variator off, I definitely needed to clean it up. The front pulley had a black ring on it with a very discernable ridge. I mean it was built up to about 1/2mm thickness. Here are the pics after I cleaned them up. The back pulley had a nick in it that I sanded smooth with 1500 grit wet/dry paper. Now I have to take the clutch pulley off to remove the belt. I was hoping to just slip the belt over it, but there's not enought room.

The nest two pictures are of a 12v side marker for a trailer I installed to replace the reflectors.

Lennox
08-02-2008, 02:57 PM
I would say it is a 2000. Or possibly considered an 01. Which online decoder are you using? Maybe it is not %100 accurate?

BWSman67
08-02-2008, 05:29 PM
I found a link on the forum for analogx.com. Did a Google search and tried a couple others but the were for cagers. From what I understand about the VIN's, its supposed to be an international standard applicable to all motor vehicles. Here is a couple excerpts from autocheck.com about how to manually decode the VIN:

Manual VIN Decode
17 digit VIN numbers can be decoded by breaking it first into 6 fields and then using the decode tables below to translate the VIN (vehicle identification number) into a description. Several of the fields are manufacturer specific and are not included in the tables below:

1. Character #1, length 3 of the VIN number is the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI) the first character is the country, the next 1 or 2 designates the manufacturer. (see table below)
2. Character #4, length 5 of the VIN number is the body style or features, which varies by manufacturer
3. Character #9, length 1 of the VIN number is a check digit, which helps programs verify that the VIN has been entered accurately
4. Character #10, length 1 of the VIN number is the model year (see table below)
5. Character #11, length 1 of the VIN number identifies the assembly plant
6. Character #12, length 6 of the VIN number is the manufacturer sequence number

Model Year
Position #10
J 1988
K 1989
L 1990
M 1991
N 1992
P 1993
R 1994
S 1995
T 1996
V 1997
W 1998
X 1999
Y 2000
1 2001
2 2002
3 2003
4 2004
5 2005
6 2006
7 2007
8 2008

The 10th digit on my VIN is a 2 which translates to 2002 as the model year.

So, I'm not sure what is what. The BW's was sold to me as a 2002 model, presumably because the dealer checked the VIN. I was a little surprised when I ordered and bought an owner's manual and got one for the new style BW's/Zuma. I thought at the time that the dealer had gotten the wrong info from the previous owner, but now I think the dealer checked the VIN (it's probably SOP for them).
I just order parts for the 2001 and that works fine , but the scooter is registered as a 2002. That might change the resale value if I decide to sell it, but I'm more likely to end up riding it into the ground.

BWSman67
08-02-2008, 09:11 PM
I finally got my new belt on and what a difference it makes. Lately I was barely able to get 55kph out of it; now the top speed is more like 65kph. (I think it was the build-up of belt material on the outer pulley that was limiting the speed as wall as being narrower due to wear.) Also there was a what seemed to be a flat spot in the power band. I would get up to 50kph and the acceleration would alomst stop. It seemed to take forever to get those last 5kph. Now I have smooth and steady acceleration right up to top speed. I'm going to have to replace the rollers as there is a noticable flat spot on them. I think I might try those new Dr. Pulley sliders, get a set of the stock (6.5g) weight and a set of 6.0g. When I get them, I'll post an initial evaluation of them for you people. I have to replace the muffler soon and am thinking of getting the Technigas Revolver. It is claimed to have improved performance over the stock, plus I like the look of it.

::handleba :ll ::handleba

rydah
08-03-2008, 02:27 AM
your right you do have a 2002. i have a 2000 and its also made by MBK. if you were to check out the euro sites they dont have a bugeye zuma in the 50cc model, they kept the prebugs models.

BWSman67
08-03-2008, 08:58 AM
I Think all prebug Zumas/BWS's were made by MBK and when Yamaha swithiched to the bugeye, they shipped them from Asia (Taiwan maybe?). I really can't see any factory making something a 1 1/2 years before it's going to be released. They would have to have a crazy huge warehouse just to keep the stuff and that costs too much. For example the 'Big 3' auto makers in NA shut down in Mid to late July to retool for the next year's models. They'll have enough vehicles built to ship to dealers for the Sept./Oct. release. I used to work at a bearing factory that made OEM wheel bearing units that were installed on new cars at the factory and they would shut down for two weeks in early July. This would give the manufacturers enough stock to finish their production run of their old models and then when they started up again two weeks later, they would have enough bearing made and shipped for the new year models. Everything being manufactured now-a-days is by the JIT (just in time) method so nobody has huge warehouses full of stock sitting around.

rydah
08-03-2008, 03:05 PM
your right, MBK zumas (prebug 50cc) and bugeyes are made in taiwan.

florida derbi rocket
08-03-2008, 09:08 PM
Hey...Check out the MBK site. www.mbk-europe.com/
(http://www.mbk-europe.com/)