06 Vino not starting

[osme02]

HELP!

I recently bought a 2006 vino 50cc in late May. It was running fine whenever i bought. I was not able to ride it over the last 6 weeks and when i tried to start it up, it runs for 5-15 secs and then dies. I charged/checked the battery but that didnt help. From what I read on the forum I think I should check/change the spark plug next?

If that what i need to do could someone tell me where its located and what i have to do to change it. My mechanical knowledge is very limited.

[osme02]

oh also, if i give it any gas it immediately turns off.

[jdpas29]

sounds like it's either flooding or barely getting enough gas to run. before fiddling with the carb or fuel, check to make sure your battery is fully juiced and working properly and make sure your spark plug wire is functional and plug is good and correct for the bike.

1) pull the spark plug and look at it. if it's black and coated with gunk including the insulator and pin, you're flooding out or running rich so to speak. if it looks like it has some white chalky substance around the insulator or the side electrode is burnt or malformed, you're running lean. but with these motors it might not be obvious as to which of these is occuring.

2) you can take off the air intake cover and remove the air filter. put your finger partially over the hole where the air is getting sucked in. if you can tell that this makes the engine stay cranked longer then you are running lean. if it kills it immediately, you're probably running rich and flooding.

3) oh and i just noticed you've got a 2-stroke. if it sat up for a while you may have a gummy carb. n drain all the old gas and, if you feel comfortable doing it, also drain the carb body using the drain plug. look at the gas as it comes out. it should be partially clear with a light blue tinge when the light is going through it. if it looks darker than that or dark orange... you got old crappy gas. i would put about a half a cup of seafoam in your tank and tilt your gas/oil mixture a little toward the gas side for one tank. after the gas/oil/seafoam mixture makes it in to the carb body, let it soak overnight. attempt a crank the next day and charge the battery overnight while you're at it so you'll be able to hit it for a while the next day.

see how that does.... in general, you want to try everything you can before taking the carburetor down.

hope this helps

[Skrapiron]

The '06 is a 4 stroke bike.

Pull and check the sparkplug. Clean, regap and replace. Pull the air cleaner cover and remove the air cleaner. If dirty, blow out with compressed air and replace. Try starting it. If still no start, pull the fuel line from the gas tank and drain the tank. Replace the line and fill with fresh gas. If still no start, pull and check the carb. Could be a stuck or gummed up float.

[osme02]

where is the spark plug on my scooter? The manual looks like its on the right side of the scooter near the battery but its not clear? Is there a walk-through anywhere for the stuff you guys mentioned. thanks!

[osme02]

where is the spark plug on my scooter? The manual looks like its on the right side of the scooter near the battery but its not clear? Is there a walk-through anywhere for the stuff you guys mentioned. thanks!

okay i found the sparg plug (it was on the right side, the cap is red), i have to go to the shop and get a tool to take it out.

I opened the air filter and it was clean. There is a tube that is filled with gas (?) that hangs off the back end; it was filled to the top and even had a little backed up into the filter area. was do that mean?

how do i empty the gas in the tank? can i use fuel injector cleaner?

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[Skrapiron]

If the air filter tube was filled with gas, that means your carb flooded. It allowed gas past the float and then into the intake as well as the piston. This is going to cause problems.

You will need to drain and re-fill the engine oil. If fuel got past the piston rings, it will contaminate the oil and cause corrosion of internal engine parts. Not good. The airbox will need to be pulled and cleaned, all traces of gas must be removed from the air box. That includes the nipple on the bottom. Chances are, the air filter element was saturated. If is smells like gas, then you need to replace it.

What likely happened is your fuel tank vent hose may be kinked or clogged by debris. This happened to me an another bike about 5 years ago. A mud-wasp built a nest inside the fuel vent hose. What happens if the fuel vent hose is blocked is pressure will build up inside the gas tank and eventually raw fuel will the pushed from the tank, through the fuel line and into the carb, causing the flooding. You need to determine what caused the flooding to prevent it from comming back again.