2005 GP-1 isn't a scooter anymore

[florida derbi rocket]

Wow..I think the 2005 GP-1 is a Hybrid ......Scooter/Crotch Rocket....They are doing this in 50cc..125..and 150cc..(Piaggio Motor).....what does the community think of this?? .....Hmm....Put my feet on footpegs??? ............................ :confused: John

[XPS1210]

I like the looks of that style scooter... however I'm not sure if they are considered 50cc motorcycles or 50cc scooters? WTH... I donno?!?!

Then again with the 06 2 stroke ban? maybe this is the future of scooters... going to a small---- small motorcycle...

[Snyeed]

I think its the hottest thing and i want one!

[Davey-boi]

Ahhh geeze, whats the world coming to :confused: ? Maybe this isn't the right forum for me anymore :( .

[Lennox]

Then again with the 06 2 stroke ban? maybe this is the future of scooters... going to a small---- small motorcycle...

is it a 2 or 4 cycle? Looks like a pocket bike on steroids........... :eek: :p

[florida derbi rocket]

Lennox..The english site had it in the 50cc category..But I didnt see anything about them changing the 2-stroke piggy to a 4.....I like the front end..But WHAT!! NO FOOTPAD!! :eek:..This is the largest (and only) photo I could find..But It does have a full swingarm.... Hmm..Smells like a 4-stroke :p

[King Vino]

If it's from the UK, then it's four stroke.

[florida derbi rocket]

I know Ya'll Love/hate this thing so I thought I'd post a new pic...Piaggio is Changing things..

[King Vino]

I got to admit, I really kinda like it. Regrettably it no longer counts as a scooter since the first rule of scootering is that it must have a walk through frame. o_o

[Aviatrixie]

Just came back to this thread... I really like the way this GP-1 looks. But nope... that ain't no scooter. Looks like a small motorcycle to me!


Erika (who can wear a dress on her Vino but not on that thing)

[wideopen01]

I'm Pretty sure..Right above The DERBI logo is the footpads..No footpegs..A few EURO scooters have gone this way....especially 125s..I do LOVE the FULL swingarm......This is DERBI's Aerox Killer........John ;)


WOOOOO im lovin that bike so much i will do anything to have that bike....how much is it...bet its REALY EXPENSIVE.. ::handleba

[RC51 Daytona]

Does it have a water cooled engine and how much is the street price in the United States?

[smokin]

WOOOOO im lovin that bike so much i will do anything to have that bike....how much is it...bet its REALY EXPENSIVE.. ::handleba

Ya that is definetely a sick bike I wouldn't mind having one just to cruise on. ::handleba

[wideopen01]

Ya that is definetely a sick bike I wouldn't mind having one just to cruise on. ::handleba

YOU WOULDENT MIND.....i would love to have it man...if my bike was stock i would trade my bike for that one ANY DAY OF THE WEEK..this guy i wouldent mind..man do you see the shape of that thing its basically a MOTORCYCLE..i like how the tail comes to a sharp point and where the footpegs are...you dont get to sit like a normal scooter thats what i like...i bet you can handel like ANYTHING WITH THAT BIKE WHAT DO U GUYS THINK......????????

[hungff77]

I read some on this bike/scooter, it is 50cc, 2t, liquid cool, compression ration, 10.5:1, oil injection
MSRP is CAD$5199, is ~US$3800, then there will be tax, Freight...on top
Pretty expensive, with that $$, I can almost buy two zuma

Frankie

[bolaspr]

NICE LOOKING SCOOTER( or whatever you guys want to call it) IT LOOKS KILLER. I READ ABOUT IT AND THE ENGINE IS A LIQUID COOLED o-- 250CC 4 STROKE IT WILL BE READY IN THIS YEAR SPRING MORE INFO :
*****link removed******
IM LOOKING TO GET ONE MYSELF. :race:

[crxlurp]

That has got to be the hottest damn thing i have ever seen!!! I want one. my local shop is taking down payments of $500 for the 250cc. they are saying they are going to be selling it for $5000. a little pricey if you ask me. but check it out. here is another pic.
http://www.bartonsscooters.com/scooters/derbi%20gp1%20silvre%20big.jpg

[scooterconvert]

Why does the Derbi website still show the older body style?

[florida derbi rocket]

actually that isnt updated...but I also got confused when I did a canadian search for Imported models of scooters..they have another model of GP-1...Derbi isnt the only one who does this... yamaha will sell the same scooter under a different name also...sorry this picture is hiding the name...V-2.. GP-1

[yama916]

that is one bad lookin ride... but for that much money you can buy a used motorcycle with over 100hp... 5 grand is so much for a little scooter....

[florida derbi rocket]

You are totally correct...I think they are going after the Guy/Girl who HAS to have something different...

[Aviatrixie]

But I simply do not understand what is different about it. It looks like a crotch-rocket but is a 50cc bike.

Does this mean that the new GP-1 is to a GSXR as a tiny pocket rocket is to a new GP-1? Five grand can buy a pretty decent motorcycle, after all.


You are totally correct...I think they are going after the Guy/Girl who HAS to have something different...

[florida derbi rocket]

Erika..I dont think it's gonna fly here..I think they are taking a chance...As usual..the euro Community thinks we only want retro-look scooters here...no big money sales..I admit we arent european...These Kids in Europe cant afford Honda civic drag racers..Or HUGE suvs....Or Hyabusas for that matter....so they save for an Aerox and HEBO the heck out of it..its quite a different scene..as we can see from some of these videos..I just wish some of the true American Sport scooter lovers could possibly Import The Scooter they fell in Love with....Oh Well "To Dream the Impossible Dream".....Oh! I also cant understand the 50cc Cafe Racer replicas??!!??...Uh..wouldnt someone start with a 250cc??? .... :confused: John

[Aviatrixie]

John...

I've been having this conversation with a gentlman friend in Holland... sent him a link to a Dutch scootertuning site, just trying to understand. It seems licensing is much tighter in Europe. So kids (anyone under 18) are really wrapped up in the whole sub-50cc thing. Het Scootertuning was the site.

It's a lot tougher to get a driver's licence in Europe. I think it's about to get tougher here, from what I've been reading.

Anyway, Eric tells me the kids on 49cc bikes are a pain in Europe.

Erika

[XPS1210]

and... they don't play with modded scooters...

they just take them if they get caught... Seen lots of video's of them being loaded up on flat bed trucks... and litterally 20+ scooters all strapped down...

[Aviatrixie]

Jered,

The way Eric describes it, they have a real problem in Europe. At 15 or 16 they can get a moped licence. The age to drive a car is 18 to 21. So they have a bunch of kids on 49cc scoots trying to go faster than 29 mph.

From what I've been reading in the newspapers lately there's a push to raise the driving age in the USA as well.


and... they don't play with modded scooters...

they just take them if they get caught... Seen lots of video's of them being loaded up on flat bed trucks... and litterally 20+ scooters all strapped down...

[florida derbi rocket]

OH YES!! I Have seen that German Video...where the Cops Pull over this Kid...and talk to him..the cameras are seeing his stubby air filter..they have this Special Van..with a Place for Interogation..While the 1st Cop is Talking to him..The 2nd Cop appears with a ROLLER DYNO!!....they put his Scooter on the Rollers and BOLDLY start the Scooter up and WOT the thing..!!Of Course his Scooter is doing above 79KPH..the next shot they show is the kid getting a HUGE ticket...(this was for a german news Program)....They arent messing around... :eek:

[florida derbi rocket]

Had to dig this one out...sorry if the pics are small, They didn't look good with an attempted enlargement on Photo Shop.

[marylandmark]

I think they are cool but want to check them out more. Very agressive styling for a scooter so the power has to match or you will come off looking like a dork in my opinion.

For the money you can get a "motorcycle" that will dust this thing.

I want to stick with having a "scooter", not a "motorcycle".

[florida derbi rocket]

Sorry mark..Didn't mean to be so direct. They aren't really a scooter except for the motor. I forgot to mention the fine engineering. Yea..I would rather have a gixxer...but I need to stay alive. John

[crxlurp]

damn these are beautiful bikes. i want one so bad. problem is spending that kind of money on one you can get an almost new sv650 (the bike i want) decisions decisions. these are definatly better looking in my opinion.

[marylandmark]

Sorry mark..Didn't mean to be so direct.


LOL- I re-read my post and saw how it came off- that was NOT what I intended!!! :ulp

I was saying if I or anyone else wanted a "motorcycle" then we would be looking at "motorcycles", not a "scooter". I want a "scooter", not a "motorcycle" o_o


The other thing is cost- for that price you can get a lot of "motorcycle"...

Sorry bro - some times hard to convey what I am really saying on the net as every one reads things different...

[speedy_scooter]

yea if i wanted to drop 3k i would just get like a used 600ninja for that kinda money. derbi is always sooooo expensive with their bikes.

[marylandmark]

yea if i wanted to drop 3k i would just get like a used 600ninja for that kinda money. derbi is always sooooo expensive with their bikes.

Yups- can get a much better performing "bike" for what these puppies are going to cost. With such a sporty look it is going to take a LOT of performace to not look like an idiot (remember the Ninja 250 that used to get beat off the line by and have a lower top end than a Honda Accord?)

The 150cc Boulevard's are $3,700- add in that it is H20 cooled, 100 more cc's and a new design. The estimation at this time is $4995.00 MSRP for the 250cc GP-1....

22 HP @ 6500RPM at about 400LBS is what the stocker is putting out- for that price you can get a used R6 that weights the same with 123HP..

[speedy_scooter]

yea i dont think derbi was thinking again.

[Red Herring]

I think Derbi are just ahead of the game here. ALL euro scoots are getting more expensive. Here in BC, the Vespa ET2 goes for 4300, the Aprillia SR50 for 43-4600, so the Derbi is just a little more at 5000. Of course, these all come fully rerestricted, and the V3 GP1 should do 60 straight out of the box. If they could drop the price a couple hundred, I think they will clean up... thats assuming they can pass it off as a scooter with Transport Canada, and get it to dealers! It is quite a bit for a scoot, granted, but if you want a good ride, and don't want to bother with a MC license... there ya go. In my oppinion, its no longer really a scooter, but I will sure as heck be out at the dealer trying one out when they get here! o_o

[anothermbdusted]

heck i love the bike personally..if it accelerated like a croutch rocket and did 75 i would pay for one but at that price theres no way in heck that i would...spend another 1k and get a 500cc bike from honda or someone like that and do like 100+ mph if you wanted to...

[911elite]

i dont know if i was going to spend more then 4000 i would get a 1968 vespa EX200 and drop a gixxer motor on it. fun fun fun.

there are a few web sites with videos of these engines

[mrklaw]

It kinda reminds me of a Gilera Runner
http://motoring.excite.co.uk/prove/311/intro1_big