Vino 50cc - Fuel Stabilizer

[dc2007]

Hi, I'm a new Vino owner, bought it just 3 weeks ago. My Vino won't run - it starts but then dies.

I called the dealer who sold it to me and they said it is my fault for not adding fuel stabilizer and letting it sit for about 10 days (inside a garage, warm weather) without running it. He said they have to take it apart, clean the carberator and maybe replace some parts. He said it will cost at least $300. Not covered by warranty of course.

I have only run it 28 miles and the dealer is the one who put the gas in it. I don't know what grade it was. Is this normal that this would happen after letting it sit only 10 days?

Thanks so much!

[Axton]

Check the basics;
Clean the plug and filter
Charge battery
Check your fuel lines

[OldGuy1]

Sounds like BS to me. Call Yamaha.

Customer Relations
(800) 962-7926

[Carlson]

I agree, sounds like BS. You might want to siphon out the gas and put in some fresh high octane premium gas. Have you tried to start in while it's on the stand and use a little throttle to keep it running? Good idea to keep the brakes on also when you rev it up. If it runs OK while you are giving it some throttle and then dies when you back off, then there could be a problem with the carburetor, choke, etc.

[OldGuy1]

I wouldn't do anything other than call Yamaha. You've had it only three weeks, it doesn't run and it's not covered under warranty? No way!!!

Even the worst gas does not go bad in three weeks. Please post the name of this rip-off dealer, than go use my method for dealing with this type.

Go at a time when they have a lot of potential customers on the showroom floor and ask in a loud voice why the motor scooter that you paid X number of dollars for less than a month ago isn't running and why should you pay them X number of dollars to get it fixed?!!!

Do not let them take you into an office to "talk about it." Stay on the showroom floor. Do not let them make you a deal. Keep asking the same questions in a loud tone of voice. Do not back down. Insist that they honor your warranty.

Do not be afraid to appear angry. You should be. The warranty is not something that they gave you. You paid for it. The cost of warranty work was included in the original selling price. If that weren't true you wouldn't be able to buy an "extended warranty."

If you haven't already done so call Yamaha Customer Relations ASAP. Make sure you tell them the complete story. I'll bet they'll help.

Keep us updated.

[sooznd]

agreed that dealer is giving you a line of bs. Why put stabilizer in a scooter in warm weather?
Maybe the battery is bad. They probably had it sitting for a year and never bothered putting anything in it or starting it much.

Call Yamaha--it should start & should be under warranty.. Was this a Yammy dealer. If so, call another..

[JustMe!]

I had the same problem (not bad dealer advice), but leaving my scoot sit idle for two weeks and then starting it up again.

I got the same advice while discussing my problems on other forums. Your issues with the dealer are one thing, but the start up problem is another.

With mine, it could start no problem, but once I let go of the throttle, it would die.

Most everyone said that it was bad gas, plug or filiter or something. I always put in same gas and same oil every time, so that can't be the prob. It was tuned just back in June.

I put in some carb cleaner in the fuel, and am on the second tank with carb cleaner. I was also told to pull the plug and check the tip. Haven't done that yet.

I asked if I should increase the idle speed. I'm not too sure where the screw is for that. I did end up tightening the throttle cable a bit, which essentially does the same thing. That seemed to help, but I don't think that really solved the problem.

[Carlson]

My old Honda 2-stroke sat idle a couple weeks "or longer" more than once over the 2+ years I had it, and I never had any problems. Generally it's the oil in the gas that is the real troublemaker when leaving an engine sit for extended periods. I have had just plain gas in a container sit over an entire Winter without stabilizers and it was still gtg. But I "am" going to put stabilizer in my Vino.